ike and troy need to be released

**JUST-PLAIN-NASTY** · 11-20-2013, 12:42 PM

I don't think there is a CB in this league that could cover Calvin Johnson in a phone booth. You have to tackle the catch with him (which Ike missed on a TD) & get help. Only fault I have with Ike is missing the tackle on the long TD pass.

**flippy** · 11-20-2013, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY

I don't think there is a CB in this league that could cover Calvin Johnson in a phone booth. You have to tackle the catch with him (which Ike missed on a TD) & get help. Only fault I have with Ike is missing the tackle on the long TD pass.

I think he was just in a crappy position on that play trailing Calvin. And if he would have tried to tackle him low, Calvin probably would have been gone anyway. Not having help there was the real problem and Ike had to be expecting help trailing him down the middle of the field.

**JUST-PLAIN-NASTY** · 11-20-2013, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by flippy

I think he was just in a crappy position on that play trailing Calvin. And if he would have tried to tackle him low, Calvin probably would have been gone anyway. Not having help there was the real problem and Ike had to be expecting help trailing him down the middle of the field.

Clark jumped the underneath route from the far hash...What a dumba$$. You still want the CB to make the tackle....But he was trying to tackle a wet tree trunk.

**steelz09** · 11-20-2013, 01:46 PM

Yea... those stats mean nothing. Ike will be like Harrison. When he's finally released, Steelers fans will get a wake up call when he can't even win a starting position on another team .... yet the homers think he's a pro bowler.

**feltdizz** · 11-20-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by steelz09

Yea... those stats mean nothing. Ike will be like Harrison. When he's finally released, Steelers fans will get a wake up call when he can't even win a starting position on another team .... yet the homers think he's a pro bowler.

I agree... Ike is great for us but he isn't a top 5 CB

**Slapstick** · 11-20-2013, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by steelz09

Yea... those stats mean nothing. Ike will be like Harrison. When he's finally released, Steelers fans will get a wake up call when he can't even win a starting position on another team .... yet the homers think he's a pro bowler.

James Harrison is a starter in Cincinnati...

**papillon** · 11-20-2013, 02:22 PM

Removing the freak that is Calvin Johnson from the equation I have the following question. If Ike can cover AJ Green, Torrey Smith and other #1 Wrs with very good to great success for the Steelers, why wouldn't he be able to do that for say, Cleveland, Cincy or Baltimore? I believe if Ike plays for them, Antonio Brown gets a couple insignificant catches, maybe a 1st down, and no TDs. I don't see how the color of the uniform renders his skills useless on another team. Contrary, I believe a team would be happy to have Ike (even though he can't catch a cold) covering #1s without help except for the freak CJ.

Pappy

**Slapstick** · 11-20-2013, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by papillon

Removing the freak that is Calvin Johnson from the equation I have the following question. If Ike can cover AJ Green, Torrey Smith and other #1 Wrs with very good to great success for the Steelers, why wouldn't he be able to do that for say, Cleveland, Cincy or Baltimore? I believe if Ike plays for them, Antonio Brown gets a couple insignificant catches, maybe a 1st down, and no TDs. I don't see how the color of the uniform renders his skills useless on another team. Contrary, I believe a team would be happy to have Ike (even though he can't catch a cold) covering #1s without help except for the freak CJ.

Pappy

It depends upon the team and the defensive philosophy...

Nnamdi Asomougha was a beast in Oakland, who clearly took a step back in Philly...then was cut by San Fran...

If the other team allows him to follow the #1, he'd probably be successful...

Another year, though, won't help him...