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Thread: Development, Not Drafting, Problem for Steelers in Tomlin Era

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Guys, of course i read the article... I'm married... selective exclusion!!

    But, "middle of the bunch with all pro"... it's not "terrible", it's not great... it's average... and i wonder about the wording... "only 16 are have had fewer" means there were likely a handful of teams who were tied... for example, "tied for 10th" sound significantly different, doesn't it?

    Anyway, the biggest point is they've drafted more starters than all teams in the NFL except one. that means they're drafting just fine...
    Drafting starters doesn't mean they are drafting fine. Hood is a starter, Gay was a starter but neither should be. Worilds maybe the starter next year but if he sucks does that make him a good draft pick? The issue is that you can't take average players like Hood or Heyward in the 1st round. Just look at the past few drafts. There are few dominant players taken. Yes, they have taken a few "starters" but all teams have starters. Doesn't make them a good team. BTW that article had the pats* at #1 and listed Cassell as a great draft pick... what? Cassell? Yup, the guy that KC ran out on a rail. He was great for the pats* because they were able to rape KC in a bad trade. But he wasn't a good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Drafting starters doesn't mean they are drafting fine. Hood is a starter, Gay was a starter but neither should be. Worilds maybe the starter next year but if he sucks does that make him a good draft pick? The issue is that you can't take average players like Hood or Heyward in the 1st round. Just look at the past few drafts. There are few dominant players taken. Yes, they have taken a few "starters" but all teams have starters. Doesn't make them a good team. BTW that article had the pats* at #1 and listed Cassell as a great draft pick... what? Cassell? Yup, the guy that KC ran out on a rail. He was great for the pats* because they were able to rape KC in a bad trade. But he wasn't a good player.
    one caveat... this says starter sthrought the league... that's gonna include Wallace, Lewis, Urbrik, etc... and not to nitpick, but, Gay (as a 6th rounder or whatever he was) was a FANTASTIC pick... as long as the team understands he's a nickel back and not a starter...

    anyway, move along... the Louisville guy is about to hit the road to go watch some college hoops this weekend... Go Cards!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    one caveat... this says starter sthrought the league... that's gonna include Wallace, Lewis, Urbrik, etc... and not to nitpick, but, Gay (as a 6th rounder or whatever he was) was a FANTASTIC pick... as long as the team understands he's a nickel back and not a starter...

    anyway, move along... the Louisville guy is about to hit the road to go watch some college hoops this weekend... Go Cards!!
    Like I said, Casell started at KC and was horrible. Just because a player starts doesn't make him a good draft pick. Urbik is starting because the rest of the bills OL blows chunks. He'd never start on an average team. Gay sucked as a starter AND as a nickel back. He had one good year as a NB but even when he was moved back he blew. He was a good pick for the 6th round but isn't a starter and is an average (at best) player.

    Go have fun watching Louisville!! Hope they win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Why is the Redskins' owner writing articles about the Steelers' player development?
    He is looking for a new way to build his team, he finally figured out that he can't buy a Super Bowl

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