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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    And this is exactly why I think taking a LT in the first round of the draft might be maddening. It doesn't matter how much we help Ben on offense if we don't find defenders that can take the ball away and keep the other team from scoring.

    The formula is still the same. Ben + Defense = Championships.

    We need all the star defenders we can find. Bottom line, we need the 2008 defense. That's the only way Ben will ever have a chance to win.
    On the other hand, Ben won't need "the 2008 defense" if the team gives him the weapons he deserves (and that every other noteworthy QB already has).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    On the other hand, Ben won't need "the 2008 defense" if the team gives him the weapons he deserves (and that every other noteworthy QB already has).
    Not sure I buy it. Ben's never gonna light up the score board. It's not conducive to his style of play. Ben could have Megatron, AJ, Gronk, and Jimmy Graham, AP, and an All Pro line and we'd somehow put up 20 points a game. We'd sputter through games like we always do. The D would have to keep us in the game. We'd still kick a lot of FGs in the RZ. And every game would come down to making the most of a chance at the end of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Not sure I buy it. Ben's never gonna light up the score board. It's not conducive to his style of play. Ben could have Megatron, AJ, Gronk, and Jimmy Graham, AP, and an All Pro line and we'd somehow put up 20 points a game. We'd sputter through games like we always do. The D would have to keep us in the game. We'd still kick a lot of FGs in the RZ. And every game would come down to making the most of a chance at the end of the game.
    He just got done putting 31 points on the board, which is more than any other team has scored against the Patriots this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    He just got done putting 31 points on the board, which is more than any other team has scored against the Patriots this season.
    It's all relative. The Pats put up 55. 31 isn't that impressive in context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    It's all relative. The Pats put up 55. 31 isn't that impressive in context.
    It wasn't enough points to win, obviously, but if 31 points isn't enough, then it's kind of stupid to blame the offense, quite frankly.
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