Todd Haley - Indirect Comment from Dwayne Bowe

[phillyesq]

So much for Bowe's judgement and intelligence

A somewhat ironic defense when Todd Haley is involved.

[Oviedo]

A somewhat ironic defense when Todd Haley is involved.

Like I have said many times. IMO it is an unfair evaluation of Haley's offense playing when he has a Junior College offensive line executing it.

The principles that Haley's offense call s for are sound. It's not working because of the OL not what he want the offense to do. That is a Colbert and front office problem and thery should get the blame.

[feltdizz]

Like I have said many times. IMO it is an unfair evaluation of Haley's offense playing when he has a Junior College offensive line executing it.

The principles that Haley's offense call s for are sound. It's not working because of the OL not what he want the offense to do. That is a Colbert and front office problem and thery should get the blame.

Nope... it's fair. Haley wanted the job so he needs to make it work or adjust the play calling.

It's like saying Wallace should only be evaluated when the pass is perfect.

[phillyesq]

Like I have said many times. IMO it is an unfair evaluation of Haley's offense playing when he has a Junior College offensive line executing it.

The principles that Haley's offense call s for are sound. It's not working because of the OL not what he want the offense to do. That is a Colbert and front office problem and thery should get the blame.

I don't know that the line is as bad as its been made out to be. The Steelers unquestionably need a LT. Beachum is not the answer. But otherwise, Foster, Velasco and DD have been solid to above-average, and Gilbert has been ok.

In any event, Haley knows what he has, and it's up to him to utilize the talent as best he can. He didn't have to let Adams continue blocking Allen 1-on1 with no help. He could have moved the pocket, used a hurry up, whatever. He didn't.

[birtikidis]

I don't know that the line is as bad as its been made out to be. The Steelers unquestionably need a LT. Beachum is not the answer. But otherwise, Foster, Velasco and DD have been solid to above-average, and Gilbert has been ok.

In any event, Haley knows what he has, and it's up to him to utilize the talent as best he can. He didn't have to let Adams continue blocking Allen 1-on1 with no help. He could have moved the pocket, used a hurry up, whatever. He didn't.

I agree with you here. The only exception are those games (and I think the Vikings game was one of them) where we have multiple lineman go down during the game.

[Oviedo]

I don't know that the line is as bad as its been made out to be. The Steelers unquestionably need a LT. Beachum is not the answer. But otherwise, Foster, Velasco and DD have been solid to above-average, and Gilbert has been ok.

In any event, Haley knows what he has, and it's up to him to utilize the talent as best he can. He didn't have to let Adams continue blocking Allen 1-on1 with no help. He could have moved the pocket, used a hurry up, whatever. He didn't.

Sorry Philly, but if we don't have the worst OL in the NFL as a group then we are definitely among the worst 5.

[phillyesq]

Sorry Philly, but if we don't have the worst OL in the NFL as a group then we are definitely among the worst 5.

There are lots of really bad OLs out there. Bryant McKinnie has started for 2 teams. The Bills started Legursky - a guy who couldn't start on the Steelers offensive line - at guard.

Ben holds the ball. It allows him to make special plays, but it also, at times, makes the line look worse than it is.

[SteelBuckeye]

The line isn't the issue. It's how he uses them, and the basic fundamental aspects of Haley's offense that kills them.

Haley's offensive scheme invites, may I say BEGS you to stack the line and run tight coverage ... and then doesn't make you pay for it. It's like "slap me in my mouth .. and I won't do anything about it". Now, he has gotten better at calling a few deep routes during the course of a game ... But, that only started happening when the media kinda sorta joined us fans in calling for his head.

[feltdizz]

Haley's offensive scheme invites, may I say BEGS you to stack the line and run tight coverage ... and then doesn't make you pay for it. It's like "slap me in my mouth .. and I won't do anything about it". Now, he has gotten better at calling a few deep routes during the course of a game ... But, that only started happening when the media kinda sorta joined us fans in calling for his head.

80% of our plays are 3 yard or less.... seemed like we didnt run a 10 yard pattern until the 2 minute warning before the half.

[SteelBuckeye]

Outstanding observation. That's exactly what Art II's offense is.

7-8 man OLs, every run up the middle.

Fans blaming Ben for that endzone pick in NE? They had 1 WR and Heath covered by six Patriots, 8 men blocking and Ben still got pressured. He couldn't do anything but chuck it and hope.

Had ARIANS designed the same play? Local media would have killed him.

But the same local geezers who hated BA? Are doing their best to save Dick Haley's boy.

Thank God for the national media pointing out the total train wreck that is this offense. And actually, as much as we have been ragging him ... Rappaport really helped grease the slide as far as getting rid of Haley.