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[WindyCitySteel]

The man was productive and fast, but not consistent in coverage. Bishop led the country with 24 passes defended (five more than anyone else) to go along with four interceptions.

He ran a 4.39 forty and a 4.15 20-yard shuttle.

How did he go un-drafted with this production on the field and work out #'s?

Did you ever consider the reason for the counting stats is because he was targeted relentlessly? He'll also turn 25 in his rookie season and is small.

There is more to scouting that reading stats on the interwebs.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/beanie...20to%20tackle.

After six years and three college stops, Bishop burst on the scene with major ball production in 2023. He was frequently targeted as an undersized outside corner at West Virginia and gave up his share of catch yardage. Bishop struggles with a lack of speed and length when beaten early in man coverage and allows easy catches in front of him from shuffle technique.

[Captain Lemming]

Did you ever consider the reason for the counting stats is because he was targeted relentlessly? He'll also turn 25 in his rookie season and is small.

There is more to scouting that reading stats on the interwebs.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/beanie...20to%20tackle.

Nah bro. If one knows how to use counting stats CORRECTLY one can come to SHOCKINGLY right conclusions.

I think Ive figured why. He gave up 5 scores. STILL dude should have been drafted.

But if you consider his stats, he was attacked a lot. Without film this tells me:

Receivers APPEAR open against him but he closes fast. Thus gets hands on the ball a ton but gets stung on occasion.

Save for a shared lack of hands he seems the polar opposite of JPJ who prevents attempts altogether.

I think he has nice skills for a slot.

If you know what to look for it is not that hard my friend. Not everyone who uses counting stats is some blind simpleton.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Did you ever consider the reason for the counting stats is because he was targeted relentlessly? He'll also turn 25 in his rookie season and is small.

There is more to scouting that reading stats on the interwebs.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/beanie...20to%20tackle.

SHOW me ONE player who runs a 4.39 as a DB and lead college football in PD's in the same year. I will be waiting for your reply. I know they has never been such a man, but then again I know these things.

I don't care about him being 25. He wont be 30 for 5 years..after his first contract expires..

[Northern_Blitz]

Did you ever consider the reason for the counting stats is because he was targeted relentlessly? He'll also turn 25 in his rookie season and is small.

There is more to scouting that reading stats on the interwebs.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/beanie...20to%20tackle.

Is there something like PD% to scale for targets?

Seems like that might be helpful

[Joel Buchsbaum]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...13132_40320007

Steelers GM says undrafted rookie has 'great opportunity' to make team
By Aaron Becker

The Steelers came away with what many view as one of the best rookie classes of the 2024 NFL Draft, and it seems Pittsburgh's good fortunes don't stop there.

General manager Omar Khan believes the team may have landed yet another impactful player as an undrafted free agent following the draft.

"I can't tell you how excited we were to have an opportunity to sign Beanie Bishop after the draft," Khan told Randy Baumann on the DVE Morning Show. "I think he's going to have a great opportunity at nickel to help us this year. He has great special teams value."


Bishop is undersized, standing at 5-foot-10, 184 pounds, but he could be the slot corner the Steelers have been searching for since letting Mike Hilton (Bengals) walk in free agency three years ago.

The West Virginia product was all over the field in 2023, registering a career-high 67 tackles, four interceptions and 20 passes defensed. He also returned a punt for a touchdown.

Khan knew Bishop could be a perfect fit when Pittsburgh met with him during the pre-draft process.

"We had him here for a visit. When he was here, we talked about our defense and how he would fit in," Khan added. "We really felt like he was a guy that could come in here and compete."


Luckily for the Steelers, they were able to land him without using a draft pick on him. It's a risk that could pay massive dividends in the long run, just like it did with Hilton in 2016.

Like Bishop, Hilton went undrafted, and Pittsburgh took a chance on him. He developed into one of the league's best slot cornerbacks and was paid accordingly (four-year, $24M contract).

That isn't to say history will repeat itself with Bishop, but if he turns out to be even half the player Hilton is, the Steelers' 2024 rookie class could be one of the best in recent memory.

[WindyCitySteel]

SHOW me ONE player who runs a 4.39 as a DB and lead college football in PD's in the same year. I will be waiting for your reply. I know they has never been such a man, but then again I know these things.

I don't care about him being 25. He wont be 30 for 5 years..after his first contract expires..

Again, you only cite measurables and stats -- the scouting reports are based on film.

In a passing league starving of CBs, The Winged God of Fast CBs Who Defend Passes went undrafted?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Again, you only cite measurables and stats -- the scouting reports are based on film.

In a passing league starving of CBs, The Winged God of Fast CBs Who Defend Passes went undrafted?

Again show me ONE db who deflected as many passes last season? Whats that, they are none. Okay.

Now show me who many DB's ran better at the combine this year. Very few.

I laughed at you suggesting film, I have not seen you post about your analysis on film.

He should have been drafted. I get that he is short....maybe he is best suited for a deep coverage DB.

Forgive me, but you're a funny guy

[Ernie]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...13132_40320007

Steelers GM says undrafted rookie has 'great opportunity' to make team
By Aaron Becker

The Steelers came away with what many view as one of the best rookie classes of the 2024 NFL Draft, and it seems Pittsburgh's good fortunes don't stop there.

General manager Omar Khan believes the team may have landed yet another impactful player as an undrafted free agent following the draft.

"I can't tell you how excited we were to have an opportunity to sign Beanie Bishop after the draft," Khan told Randy Baumann on the DVE Morning Show. "I think he's going to have a great opportunity at nickel to help us this year. He has great special teams value."


Bishop is undersized, standing at 5-foot-10, 184 pounds, but he could be the slot corner the Steelers have been searching for since letting Mike Hilton (Bengals) walk in free agency three years ago.

The West Virginia product was all over the field in 2023, registering a career-high 67 tackles, four interceptions and 20 passes defensed. He also returned a punt for a touchdown.

Khan knew Bishop could be a perfect fit when Pittsburgh met with him during the pre-draft process.

"We had him here for a visit. When he was here, we talked about our defense and how he would fit in," Khan added. "We really felt like he was a guy that could come in here and compete."


Luckily for the Steelers, they were able to land him without using a draft pick on him. It's a risk that could pay massive dividends in the long run, just like it did with Hilton in 2016.

Like Bishop, Hilton went undrafted, and Pittsburgh took a chance on him. He developed into one of the league's best slot cornerbacks and was paid accordingly (four-year, $24M contract).

That isn't to say history will repeat itself with Bishop, but if he turns out to be even half the player Hilton is, the Steelers' 2024 rookie class could be one of the best in recent memory.

Ive been making the Mike Hilton comparison since we signed him. Glad to see some folks in the organization are seeing his potential..

[Joel Buchsbaum]

The man was productive and fast, but not consistent in coverage. Bishop led the country with 24 passes defended (five more than anyone else) to go along with four interceptions.

He ran a 4.39 forty and a 4.15 20-yard shuttle.

How did he go un-drafted with this production on the field and work out #'s?

I think Bishop with his production and speed can make a valuable piece for our defense. He needs good coaching.