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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I think we'd have to trade up in Round 2 to get Frazier
    I wouldn't be against taking an OT like Mims in the first and then trading up in the second for Frazier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    I wouldn't be against taking an OT like Mims in the first and then trading up in the second for Frazier.
    Agreed. OV is right, though, we'd still need to bring in a Vet, even if he's just a backup to Frazier.
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    I saw a story earlier today that the team WILL NOT go o-linemen with 2 consecutive selections.

    Not sure how much truth there is to it, but it sounds like they're determined to go WR in the 2nd. So, if ya get Mims, don't count on Frazier - instead, expect SVP
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    I saw a story earlier today that the team WILL NOT go o-linemen with 2 consecutive selections.

    Not sure how much truth there is to it, but it sounds like they're determined to go WR in the 2nd. So, if ya get Mims, don't count on Frazier - instead, expect SVP
    if we go cheap and horrible at C this year I will wonder if we just don’t care about that position anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    I saw a story earlier today that the team WILL NOT go o-linemen with 2 consecutive selections.

    Not sure how much truth there is to it, but it sounds like they're determined to go WR in the 2nd. So, if ya get Mims, don't count on Frazier - instead, expect SVP
    If that's the case, I think the assumption would be that we draft C first and WR 2nd.

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    It would be overdrafting if we got him in the 1st....but....he'd still be a good pick at #20.

    Sometimes prospect rankings & player actual values are not the same. He's a day 1 starter. And we need a starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    It would be overdrafting if we got him in the 1st....but....he'd still be a good pick at #20.

    Sometimes prospect rankings & player actual values are not the same. He's a day 1 starter. And we need a starter.
    Good point Chadman. He won't make it to the 2nd round pick. But maybe a small trade down in Rd1 and then grab him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Good point Chadman. He won't make it to the 2nd round pick. But maybe a small trade down in Rd1 and then grab him?

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    I like the idea of trading down.

    Probably wouldn't work out like this, but the draft value chart says that we can swap our 1st and 2nd with ARI (late first early 2nd) for basically the same value.

    I think that kind of trade would be really good for us (either as one move or stacked trades with different teams).

    Seems like our highest positional needs are C (usually not taken super early) and WR (deep class).

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    if we go cheap and horrible at C this year I will wonder if we just don’t care about that position anymore.
    We have more needs than one position. We have no #2 WR which could be a disaster...unless we are going to target TEs 120+ times. We have no depth on the DL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    We have more needs than one position. We have no #2 WR which could be a disaster...unless we are going to target TEs 120+ times. We have no depth on the DL
    So there was an NFL analyst on FSR yesterday making the case that teams are badly undervaluing TEs and slot WRs, and overvaluing outside receivers.
    Said if you look at the last 10 SB winners you'll see either an elite TE or outstanding slot WR. Said teams don't win SBs with elite outside guys.
    Smith loves himself TEs in his offense. Washington was underutilized last season as a receiver. They need to see what he can be this year.

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