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    KP, MC Set Each Other Up for Failure

    Despite what it seems, there were some positives from the game last week, but far too little.

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/alls...t-canada-calls

    Steelers Film Room: Kenny Pickett's Yipps, Matt Canada's Calls
    The Pittsburgh Steelers have two problems feeding off each other on offense.
    NICHOLAS MARTIN18 HOURS AGO


    At some juncture, there comes a boiling point to this whole ordeal and amidst the "Fire Canada" chants after an atrocious situational play call, it may have gone past the boiling point, at least for Pittsburgh Steelers fans.


    What makes evaluating both Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada fairly though is how both seem to self-destruct when the other has set each other up.


    What does that mean? Well, it's time to find out.




    Positives
    Yes, there were indeed positive aspects to take away from this game from both Pickett and Canada, though it definitely was not enough to overshadow the garbage pile of bad from both. That said, it's really encouraging when a player in his second season is able to learn from mistakes on the fly, and Kenny Pickett definitely had his moments in this regard.




    This was arguably his best sequence in Week 3. After initially passing up the sail route to the field side and checking it down, which led to a terrible fumble by Gunner Olszewski. Later in the game the Steelers pretty much run it back with the same concept, and Pickett drills the sail with anticipation and placement.




    Because the underneath defender has a bit of an outside shade, it makes the most sense to place the ball inside away from that leverage, as it will also protect his receiver George Pickens from taking a big hit. It was very relieving to see Pickett hit this play after missing it initially early in the game.


    Canada also had a great play call that recognized both the situational football and the look the Browns defense was showing.


    On the first play, the defense only has three on the defensive line, but it's clear to see pre-snap with how bunched up the Browns linebackers are here that they're sending at least two more. Sione Takitaki is responsible for the running back here, who slips into the flat towards the field side, while the rest of the receivers run short crossing routes to clog up the linebacker from scrapping over to Warren.




    The second play also works versus man with both tight ends acting to clear out Austin running the underneath crosser on the mesh concept with Jaylen Warren potentially having a key block to spring it free.


    This is good stuff because both of these plays encourage conflict for the defense and attacks the defensive look they wanted. In the underneath passing game and screen game Canada actually does a decent job of creating conflict with the opposing defenders, but his problems often arise everywhere else.




    Pickett's Yips and Canada Not Helping
    As mentioned earlier, Pickett definitely had his fair share of learning from mistakes moments, but some of these often did not translate into the box score because his accuracy ended up being so scattershot most of the night.


    It also doesn't help that Pickett was getting careless with where his eyes were leading him.




    This is such a frustrating play because it's very easy to initially blame Pickett for this with how deliberately his eyes gravitate towards Pickens on the slant. The problem here is Canada does not put the safety Grant Delpit into any conflict at all here, which makes it very easy for him to pass this off to the defensive leverage and follow Pickett here.


    Not only is this not creating any conflict, it's downright lazy play-calling. Triple slants from the field side with the tight end running towards the defensive leverage is about as bottom-of-the-barrel play call as it gets. Sure Pickett maybe should come off this, but where is he going with this ball? The hitch backside to Allen Robinson isn't the worst option, but there is really not much to work with here. This ball is coached to be out quickly on a play like this.




    Of course, Pickett isn't absolved of any blame. In fact, a lot of it absolutely rides on his shoulders.


    This is something Pickett was criticized for a ton coming out of college, and it continues to creep its head up in crucial situations. The quarterback has as clear of an A gap to be able to climb and either take off and run, or throw it downfield. Instead, Pickett drifts to his left, sees the defensive tackle beat Mason Cole, and then hits the panic button for an outside escape. This consequentially creates even more pressure, as it leaves Isaac Seumalo out to dry and leads to him sacking himself.




    Another problem here is how slowly Pickett is to read out the coverage, which does not change at all post-snap. Deep middle safety often indicates a middle of the field closed which was as clear as possible pre-snap and even more clear post-snap. If he is able to recognize it's capped sooner, then the ball probably comes off his hand as Pickens is breaking off the out route before the pressure even gets there.


    Also, note again the creativity from Canada as the field side is running double in breaking posts here which might have worked better versus a quarters defense. I might excuse this if you run this under center with play action to get the linebackers to come up and open the middle of the field, but what is even more bothersome is how there's no communication at all pre-snap when the coverage could not be more obvious.


    There is no way to know if Pickett has the ability to audible out of plays pre-snap based on what he sees, but it is downright baffling that he is electing to read this out as long as he does. It is beyond frustrating when the coaching staff can see it as clear as day and does not elect to tell him.


    If you combine this with the disastrous blocking up front in the run game, it is no wonder why the Steelers' offense looks broken.




    There is no indication pre-snap that Pickett shifted the protection, yet the offensive line shifts the protection right, which leaves an unblocked rusher that he can't make miss and he ends up being sacked. This is baffling stuff to be happening to an offense that is now in year three under Canada.




    It's not just the film though that backs this up. The advanced analytics also paint a very grim picture.







    When so many things are going wrong like this, it means the offense is broken. When the quarterback is slow to process, his old habits are creeping up, the line cannot block, while the offensive coordinator has some very questionable play designs that are being made worse by the quarterback, it is just not working.


    Main Takeaway
    What little positives there were from Canada and Pickett can only do so little against the heaping trash pile sitting on the all-22. Broken pass protection, taking bad sacks, being slow to process the coverage, and atrocious play designs are inherent signs of not just bad execution, but what is a broken offense.


    Going up against a much-maligned Raiders defense this coming week, the offense needs to get right. That goes for the offensive line's execution in the run game, the quarterback not sacking himself, and the play-caller not leaving him out to dry in the intermediate part of the field. This team cannot account every week on their defense scoring fourteen points off turnovers. It is not sustainable.

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    Depressing article. That's not about tweaks or mojo, that is just total system failure. Not sure how you fix this, it's what they built all offseason.
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 09-22-2023 at 07:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Depressing article. That's not about tweaks or mojo, that is just total system failure. Not sure how you fix this, it's what they built all offseason.
    Agree. We can only hope that Canada see these deficiencies and is able to adjust and improve as the season goes on. But my gut feel (for 2 seasons now) is that he's in over his head and this is his last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Depressing article. That's not about tweaks or mojo, that is just total system failure. Not sure how you fix this, it's what they built all offseason.
    We lost our Mojo. Not even Austin Powers and a shopping cart full of virgra can fix it.

    You fix it by firing Tomlin ( who picks crappy OC's ) and promoting Warren to be the primary back. And you start Jones, not the worst left tackle in the game in Moore. And play Washington more often. Replacing Pickett sometime this year is an option a playoff winning head coach should consider. But then again, what do I know?

    Our offense is well, offensive and the coaching is worse.

    Get the playmakers the ball more often...Pickens, Warren, and Muth.. play the players who produce.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Warren Sharp said that the Steelers pass from shotgun 80% of the time, run from under center 90%, and that "no other team is close" to that imbalance.

    If he can see it, DCs can see it. They know before the snap what they have to defend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Warren Sharp said that the Steelers pass from shotgun 80% of the time, run from under center 90%, and that "no other team is close" to that imbalance.

    If he can see it, DCs can see it. They know before the snap what they have to defend.
    Really? We might as well annouce what we are doing. In fact we all but do. Is Tomlin aware of this? I doubt it.

    Tyler Brickner AKA...Waren Sharp the stage name, is a very good data man. Canada should taken some notes from him.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Warren Sharp said that the Steelers pass from shotgun 80% of the time, run from under center 90%, and that "no other team is close" to that imbalance.

    If he can see it, DCs can see it. They know before the snap what they have to defend.
    Lol this is totally crazy if true but yeah it's obvious teams know what the Steelers offense is doing on almost every play which makes execution pretty difficult. The coaching on this team sets the players up for failure. This is my major asterisk when people are criticizing KP, yeah he should be better but in the current system I just don't think it matters much because he realistically can only do so well in it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Depressing article. That's not about tweaks or mojo, that is just total system failure. Not sure how you fix this, it's what they built all offseason.
    Windy, maybe I miss something but when Kelen Moore was let go by the Cowboys, why did we not sniff around him?do

    *** And,,,why desn't management just go find an OC assistant on one of these better offensive teams in the league and make him the OC? They can't do any worse than what Canada has done. I would trust that guy, who's been part of a real , explosive offense more then Matt Canada.
    Last edited by Steel Maniac; 09-22-2023 at 09:23 AM.
    From the 2011-2022 season,(A 12 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Depressing article. That's not about tweaks or mojo, that is just total system failure. Not sure how you fix this, it's what they built all offseason.
    Yep.

    Basically everything is wrong with the offense at the same time.

    Hopefully we can start to right the ship in what should be a couple of easy games.

    Maybe we just had a confluence of ****ty events...tough opponents, bad luck, voodoo dolls, curses, Ouija boards...whatever.

    Time to get it right.

    If it doesn't work, get someone new to at least call plays (whatever you want to call the position). And if we look this bad all season...well, I think we'll end up picking higher than 20 and we'll have to at least think about what to do at the QB position.

    But I don't believe KP will look this bad all season. I think he'll find something that works to at least some degree. Let's start this Sunday.

    I have less hope for Canada. But I hope he starts proving me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Warren Sharp said that the Steelers pass from shotgun 80% of the time, run from under center 90%, and that "no other team is close" to that imbalance.

    If he can see it, DCs can see it. They know before the snap what they have to defend.
    A former player said yesterday that most teams don't self-scout until their bye week. So get ready for almost another month of this nonsense.
    And besides, when it's rotten to the core, I don't think band-aiding will do much. So even if Canada is demoted and Thomas takes over there probably won't be wholesale change. Pretty much have to redo the offense in the off season. So should we consider the first two years for Pickett are a write-off? I have to think so.
    Last edited by NorthCoast; 09-22-2023 at 01:37 PM.

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