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Thread: PFF grades for the offense vs. the Browns.

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    PFF grades for the offense vs. the Browns.

    Jaylen Warren: 71.6

    Najee Harris: 53.4

    OL grades.

    Dan Moore Jr: 21.8
    Isaac Seumalo: 50.6
    Mason Cole: 47.4
    James Daniels: 45.2
    Chukwuma Okorafor: 37.6

    Someone tell the beat reports to ask Tweedee and Tweedum why Jones is not starting, and why Warren isn't starting. Some ask cool shades who binlks like he on some sort of drug during the press conferences. Now I get it why he wears shades so often.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Jaylen Warren: 71.6

    Najee Harris: 53.4

    OL grades.

    Dan Moore Jr: 21.8
    Isaac Seumalo: 50.6
    Mason Cole: 47.4
    James Daniels: 45.2
    Chukwuma Okorafor: 37.6

    Someone tell the beat reports to ask Tweedee and Tweedum why Jones is not starting, and why Warren isn't starting. Some ask cool shades who binlks like he on some sort of drug during the press conferences. Now I get it why he wears shades so often.
    Because pffs best pass rusher in history had 1 tackle and no pressures and was better than Hoghsmith and Watt per their rating.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Because pffs best pass rusher in history had 1 tackle and no pressures and was better than Hoghsmith and Watt per their rating.
    PFF makes no sense.

    I?ve heard both Pat P and Ben disagree with their ratings this week.

    Pat P seems to think they are clueless and don?t understand football. He told BMac to get them on their podcast to dig in and discuss how they grade.

    Pat was even suggesting they should show and reference specific plays they are scoring. He was insistent he only gave up 1 catch Monday.

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    Maybe PFF grades based on "what they believe" during certain plays? At some point it becomes "over analysis" by outsiders without enough information.

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    you guys put way too much stock in PFF.
    Find my post for me and help me prove I’m Black


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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    you guys put way too much stock in PFF.
    How many employees does PFF have to study and break down players with limited info and bias?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    How many employees does PFF have to study and break down players with limited info and bias?
    About a 100. Not so limited. They grade snaps and average them. Do you know how they work? You sound like PFF is biased. I do not think they are. The best players tend to rate high and the worst players tend to rate low.

    The Browns player who rated higher was up against you know who.

    # Start Jones and Warren and use Washington more I would. I am I not one to talk after PFF assigns grades, Their grades in this case black up what I have been saying.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    How many employees does PFF have to study and break down players with limited info and bias?
    Last I read they have 600+ employees but only about 50 are qualified to rate players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    About a 100. Not so limited. They grade snaps and average them. Do you know how they work? You sound like PFF is biased. I do not think they are. The best players tend to rate high and the worst players tend to rate low.

    The Browns player who rated higher was up against you know who.

    # Start Jones and Warren and use Washington more I would. I am I not one to talk after PFF assigns grades, Their grades in this case black up what I have been saying.
    I don't work at PFF. I don't know anyone what works at PFF. Do you know how they work or grade?

    Without 100% knowledge of the facts then opinion and bias become potential factors in the judgement of players.

    "What you been saying" Isn't 100% fact. Just like PFF. PFF offers opinions with some factual data. Just like fans. Myself included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    I don't work at PFF. I don't know anyone what works at PFF. Do you know how they work or grade?

    Without 100% knowledge of the facts then opinion and bias become potential factors in the judgement of players.

    "What you been saying" Isn't 100% fact. Just like PFF. PFF offers opinions with some factual data. Just like fans. Myself included.
    Working for PFF, which I do not is irreverent to the discussion. You are charging them with bias. Okay, where is your prof? Am I reading your correctly? I am saying they have a lot of guys researching there data. I agree with them in general, ( the data ) don'y you? Or do you think their grade last week were junk? Please explain.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 09-20-2023 at 03:16 PM.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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