Dan Moore is the worst tackle in football

[WindyCitySteel]

According to PFF. Big Ben says he's "killing it", though. Passive aggressive shot at Pickett?

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/09/yo...ay-vs-garrett/

[papillon]

Ben loves his offensive linemen, always did and always will.

Pappy

[Captain Lemming]

According to PFF. Big Ben says he's "killing it", though. Passive aggressive shot at Pickett?

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/09/yo...ay-vs-garrett/

I know. With his allowing his man to excel beyond his normal pff greatness with one tackle and ZERO PRESSURES he let Myles Garret have a better game than TJ or Highsmith.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...e%20of%2091.7.

Yes you read that right. Per pff Garrett and his one tackle was the best defender IN THE GAME.

But what do I know. Me and BEN ROETHLISBERGER don’t know Jack as we did not chart every play like those pff experts we just used COUNTING STATS like sacks and touchdowns.

It is the subtle nuances that go unseen by your average fan that Myles does SO WELL that wins games.

[Captain Lemming]

I know. With his allowing his man to excel beyond his normal pff greatness with one tackle and ZERO PRESSURES he let Myles Garret have a better game than TJ or Highsmith.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...e%20of%2091.7.

Yes you read that right.
But what do I know. Me and BEN ROETHLISBERGER don’t know Jack as we did not chart every play like those pff experts we just used COUNTING STATS like sacks and touchdowns.

It is the subtle nuances that go unseen by your average fan that Myles does SO WELL that wins games.

Oh this thread was such a mistake Windy… we gone have fun with this.

[flippy]

I really think the problem is the PFF guys don’t necessarily know the play call and player’s responsibility on a given play.

I would trust Ben would have a better idea of the play call and a lot more context and would trust his call on Moore over PFF.

It’s near impossible to grade someone vs what is expected of them without know exactly what was expected on a play.

[steelguin]

I really think the problem is the PFF guys don?t necessarily know the play call and player?s responsibility on a given play.

I would trust Ben would have a better idea of the play call and a lot more context and would trust his call on Moore over PFF.

It?s near impossible to grade someone vs what is expected of them without know exactly what was expected on a play.

They grade him as bad all the time however, he kept Bosa and Garett off the stat sheet.

[flippy]

They grade him as bad all the time however, he kept Bosa and Garett off the stat sheet.

Seems like that?s his primary goal.

and I didn?t notice Dan getting a ton of help. And Isaac seems to be playing poorly next to him which isn?t helping.

I would say his play is mixed. He gives effort, isn?t the most athletic/fast guy but in general he?s ok in pass pro.

run blocking might not be his forte and the biggest reason to be excited for Broderick to get in the mix sooner than later.

I also understand not wanting Broderick to have to deal with Bosa and Garrett immediately that could hurt his confidence if he would have struggled.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Seems like that?s his primary goal.

I would think that it should be, right?

[WindyCitySteel]

I know. With his allowing his man to excel beyond his normal pff greatness with one tackle and ZERO PRESSURES he let Myles Garret have a better game than TJ or Highsmith.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...e%20of%2091.7.

Yes you read that right. Per pff Garrett and his one tackle was the best defender IN THE GAME.

But what do I know. Me and BEN ROETHLISBERGER don’t know Jack as we did not chart every play like those pff experts we just used COUNTING STATS like sacks and touchdowns.

It is the subtle nuances that go unseen by your average fan that Myles does SO WELL that wins games.

Moore lost just about every single pass rush battle with Garrett, it's not Garrett's fault they got the ball out fast.

Actually, it is.

TJ loafed on his pass rush on the TD play and thus was in position for an easy scoop and untouched score when the ball bounced to him.

This isn't FFL, it's a cumulative grade of EVERY snap.

[Northern_Blitz]

At least part of this is because PFF doesn't adjust for expectations vs. quality of competition (at least that's my understanding). I don't know how many of Moore's snaps were against Bosa and Garrett. But I wouldn't be surprise if he has a higher %age of snaps against elite edge rushers than any other OT in the league.

I don't think he's a great OT. But I don't think he's the worst OT in the league either.