Dan Moore is the worst tackle in football

[NorthCoast]

Why is that a flaw? That's like saying your grade should be artificially raised in Advanced Calculus and Quantam Physics classes because they're harder, and lowered in African Studies.

The grades are the grades.

Using your example, I give one student a Math101 test and another Adv. Calc. The student aces the 101 test but the Adv Calc student gets a 'C'. Which student did better? As you keep saying, 'context matters'. Who they faced seems highly contextual.

I will say at least PFF is consistent. They rated Moore the worst LT while rating the guy he faced the best edge. It would be a little embarrassing if it didn't work out that way.

[Oviedo]

PFF is garbage. It is just another misleading website designed for Fantasy Football needs

They use a sampling technique to generate grades while ignoring all the variables that should go into an accurate analysis

Just a BS money making site that people who don't know wh a t they are doing uses

How many of the 32 NFL teams rely on PFF?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Garrett had 1 tackle and 1 QB hit

Watt had 4 tackles, 1 sack, 2TFL, 4 QB hits, 1 pass defended, 1 FR, 1 TD

and PFF ranked Garrett higher!!!

Just shows higher rankings don?t mean you had a better game.

PFF rewards technique. It doesn?t reward play results.

For all we know Garrett may have graded 100 on the play Pickens scored simply because he beat Moore off the LOS.

Also keep in mind that Garrett only had to beat Moore all game. Watt regularly had to beat Dawand Jones and a back or tight end who was there to assist him.

[pfelix73]

PFF is garbage. It is just another misleading website designed for Fantasy Football needs

They use a sampling technique to generate grades while ignoring all the variables that should go into an accurate analysis

Just a BS money making site that people who don't know wh a t they are doing uses

How many of the 32 NFL teams rely on PFF?

Absolutely None!

[NorthCoast]

Also keep in mind that Garrett only had to beat Moore all game. Watt regularly had to beat Dawand Jones and a back or tight end who was there to assist him.

Tom Peliserro of PFF on TheFan talking about Garrett's rating vs Watt's (paraphrasing): Garrett beat Moore on about 50% of his pass rush attempts. But because Pickett got rid of the ball so quickly he didn't get the splash that Watt had when Watson held the ball for 5 secs. "But Garrett did his job at a higher rate than Watt"....

[Captain Lemming]

Garrett had 1 tackle and 1 QB hit

Watt had 4 tackles, 1 sack, 2TFL, 4 QB hits, 1 pass defended, 1 FR, 1 TD

and PFF ranked Garrett higher!!!

Just shows higher rankings don?t mean you had a better game.

PFF rewards technique. It doesn?t reward play results.

Pff grades linemen like they are watching TRAINING CAMP DRILLS where ACTUALLY MAKING THE TACKLES are not required.

[Northern_Blitz]

agreed. but a few have pointed out that we have played 2 great defenses so far so at least some are acknowledging it.

I am holding out hope that the reason he looks so terrible is because of strength of competition.It's harder to evaluate for QBs IMO because they are going up against a whole defense instead of one guy.We'll get more information on this. The Raiders appear to be much worse against the pass than SF and the Browns.I'll be keeping my fingers and toes crossed over here.Also worth noting...I don't think anyone is saying that it's only Kenny's fault. We are saying that Kenny is part of the problem and we can't just blame Canada (even though we all want Kenny to be good)

[feltdizz]

I am holding out hope that the reason he looks so terrible is because of strength of competition.It's harder to evaluate for QBs IMO because they are going up against a whole defense instead of one guy.We'll get more information on this. The Raiders appear to be much worse against the pass than SF and the Browns.I'll be keeping my fingers and toes crossed over here.Also worth noting...I don't think anyone is saying that it's only Kenny's fault. We are saying that Kenny is part of the problem and we can't just blame Canada (even though we all want Kenny to be good)

I blame Kenny for the SF game. I blame Canada for the Cleveland game. Those failed run plays and sequences were atrocious

[WindyCitySteel]

Using your example, I give one student a Math101 test and another Adv. Calc. The student aces the 101 test but the Adv Calc student gets a 'C'. Which student did better? As you keep saying, 'context matters'. Who they faced seems highly contextual.

I will say at least PFF is consistent. They rated Moore the worst LT while rating the guy he faced the best edge. It would be a little embarrassing if it didn't work out that way.

Over the course of a year it will even out. He's a career 60-ish guy at PFF. He stinks.

[WindyCitySteel]

Tom Peliserro of PFF on TheFan talking about Garrett's rating vs Watt's (paraphrasing): Garrett beat Moore on about 50% of his pass rush attempts. But because Pickett got rid of the ball so quickly he didn't get the splash that Watt had when Watson held the ball for 5 secs. "But Garrett did his job at a higher rate than Watt"....

And I agree with that analysis. Sacks aren't just on OL, QBs play a huge role.