Is this start on offense historically bad?

[Northern_Blitz]

Extra TD doesn't beat SF. He's never going to complete all of his passes, the odd 5-yard button hook misthrow isn't killing the team.

This is such a BS argument.

People are saying: KP has to start completing the easy passes that are there even in the bad system Canada has put together.

Windy says: It doesn't matter if KP plays well as long as Canada is the OC because the scheme is just so bad.

Felt says: He's an example of a pretty straight forward TD that he missed to Pickens. There is also the easy TD he missed to DJ (although I believe we did go on to score on that drive).

Windy says: He's never going to complete all his passes.

There's a huge difference between expecting KP to be something more than the worst QB in the league by a wide margin at throwing balls from clean pockets to expecting him to complete every pass.

Windy...you are being blinded by your confirmation bias here. It's absolutely true that Canada is a bad OC. But it's also absolutely true that Kenny has really, really sucked at QB so far this season.

[WindyCitySteel]

This is such a BS argument.

People are saying: KP has to start completing the easy passes that are there even in the bad system Canada has put together.

Windy says: It doesn't matter if KP plays well as long as Canada is the OC because the scheme is just so bad.

Felt says: He's an example of a pretty straight forward TD that he missed to Pickens. There is also the easy TD he missed to DJ (although I believe we did go on to score on that drive).

Windy says: He's never going to complete all his passes.

There's a huge difference between expecting KP to be something more than the worst QB in the league by a wide margin at throwing balls from clean pockets to expecting him to complete every pass.

Windy...you are being blinded by your confirmation bias here. It's absolutely true that Canada is a bad OC. But it's also absolutely true that Kenny has really, really sucked at QB so far this season.

I never said he didn't. Kenny has been bad. If he had played as well as he did late last year we'd still be 1-1 with a blowout loss to the Niners.

We have zero chance to compete for a championship with this offensive coaching staff. Our ceiling is 9 wins. The Steelers have thrown away three straight seasons because they're a dumb, lazy offensive team.

This is a middling franchise living on past glory.

[Northern_Blitz]

I never said he didn't. Kenny has been bad. If he had played as well as he did late last year we'd still be 1-1 with a blowout loss to the Niners.

We have zero chance to compete for a championship with this offensive coaching staff. Our ceiling is 9 wins. The Steelers have thrown away three straight seasons because they're a dumb, lazy offensive team.

This is a middling franchise living on past glory.

I don't think we get blown out by the 9ers if we had an offense in that game when the game was close.

But not getting a 1st down in something like 25 minutes and having negative net yardage for almost a half means that you get blown out.

Even if the O doesn't score, but gets longer drives like KP did when he came in to relieve Mitch then we keep their O off the field and they score less.

Hopefully we get another shot at them this year, but I agree with you that there's essentially no chance of that happening.

[Steel Maniac]

We need to start looking at these assistant OC’s from these teams with great offenses.They can’t be any worse than the crap Canada has shown.

[Northern_Blitz]

Pickett has the worst TD% of any QB since he joined the NFL.

Good news: Raiders allow 84% completion rate to WRs. Still hoping that KP looking this horrible this season is a strength of schedule issue. But if he looks terrible Sunday night, I think we're in for a very long season.

[Northern_Blitz]

I never said he didn't. Kenny has been bad. If he had played as well as he did late last year we'd still be 1-1 with a blowout loss to the Niners.

This is a more reasonable take anyway. But it's not what you said before.

True, but they have tape on the whole offense, and it's a a 60-second reel. Every D knows every play by formation. If Kenny cleans up the innaccuracy issues I don't think it makes a huge difference in offensive production.

There is a big difference between offensive production and winning / losing.

[Steel Maniac]

This is from rotoworld:

The below stat simply doesn’t sound true (it is).

The Steelers have *0* rushing yards before contact this season (PFF)

— Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) September 20, 2023
Pittsburgh’s line is providing zero push for its running backs and Kenny Pickett has yet to garner the respect of defenses. If Harris was getting all of the backfield touches, that would be less of an issue. However, he has only earned 57 percent of the Steelers’ carries on a 56 percent snap share. His route rate of 47 percent is only six points higher than Jaylen Warren’s cut of the routes.

[feltdizz]

Extra TD doesn't beat SF. He's never going to complete all of his passes, the odd 5-yard button hook misthrow isn't killing the team.

so extending drives with first downs instead of going 3 and out on the first 5 consecutive drives wouldn?t change the production?

lmao.. weird argument. I can see saying we would still lose the game but if we have the ball for more time, that is less time the other team has the ball obviously which is how you generate more yards and overall production.