Six potential QB picks in round one, 2024

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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 15450

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    It's why I'm not totally sold on Caleb. He is a BEAST but he rarely plays anyone with talent on defense and I've seen about 8 games and he rarely makes plays on schedule. It's his ability to adlib that impresses.
    If you're going to play for Mike Tomlin, you'd better be prepared to make plays off schedule.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
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      • Jan 2021
      • 7546

      #17
      Originally posted by Prowler
      I really like Penix. I think he might throw the best deep ball of the draft class. He’s accurate and mobile too. I believe that Washington is a legitimate threat to win the national championship with Penix at QB. Now if he can avoid the injury bug that has plagued him, he’ll play on Sundays and be drafted in the 1st round.
      Penix suffered a torn ACL in both 2018 and 2020. He also suffered a sternoclavicular joint injury in 2019, then an AC joint injury in his shoulder in 2021. Who are your team surgeons? How is your OL? That injury bug is dug in something fierce. He is a talented player but very fragile. He has been hurt in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021.
      Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 09-30-2023, 09:04 AM.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • crushedspirit
        Pro Bowler
        • Feb 2021
        • 2201

        #18
        Bo Nix is shredding Colorado while poor Sanders watches in horror

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        • Joel Buchsbaum
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          • Jan 2021
          • 7546

          #19
          Nix now #1 on my list. He is such control, he is NFL ready.
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • Steel Maniac
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            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #20
            Originally posted by crushedspirit
            Bo Nix is shredding Colorado while poor Sanders watches in horror
            Steeler scouts were at the Colorado/ Oregon game.

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
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              • Jan 2021
              • 7546

              #21
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              Steeler scouts were at the Colorado/ Oregon game.
              Interesting. I hope they were scouting Nix and stopped by to get to know Dan Lanning.
              Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 09-30-2023, 08:40 AM.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
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                • Jan 2021
                • 7546

                #22
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                It's a little early to start talking about the draft, but our QB1 isn't playing well and this 2024 QB class is absolutely loaded! I see as many as six first round picks next year and teams moving off their QB's who are cap killers and can be poor passers such as Lamar Jakson, Kyler Murray, and Russell Wilson... I think. Such players are hurt and turn over prone, I don't see them running anymore, do you?

                Any rate here is a sneak peek at next year's QB class potential QB class of 2024.

                1 ) Caleb Willimas. 6'1" 215 pounds. This guy has lit up the pack 12. He has not played anyone tough this year. But his stats are great. His accuracy is very good. His arm is good, not great. He really has three WR's that rip up the Big 12. He has good running ability and I want to see his legit NFL measurements, and I question his NFL durability which combined with his playing style could spell trouble. He is close to 6 feet. Maybe a tad shorter than that. He certainly passes the eye test. He mostly plays in the Close to NFL ready.

                2) Box Nix. 6'2" 220 pounds. Another Big 12 QB except he doesn't have great talent around him. He shows great arm release, and shows a very pro-like 2 minute drill. He can run too. This former 5 star QB was the SEC freshman of the year. He is great under pressure. There is a lot to like.

                3) Drake Maye. He is hyped as well as he should be, but has not played well this year. But he is a down the field passer who completes a high % of his passes ( 72.5 % ) and is big at 6'4' 230 pounds! He can take a hit and is tough to sack because he processes information so quickly. He has good pocket mobility too. He threw too many interceptions this year. ( 4 ) This 21 year old is likely as top 5 pick when he come out.

                4) Drew Allar. This 19 year old is the best QB prospect his age I have ever seen! The 6'5" 245 pound kid has a A+ arm. The ball comes out of his hand like a rocket. A good passer, he has not thrown an interception in a game or in practice. He is a tad overweight and is still growing into his body. Obviously he has a lot to learn. Likely to stay in school another year, but if he goes pro in 2024, he is worth a top 15 pick right now. If you have to sit him for a year, so what! He is a rare prospect that is worth the wait.

                5) Riley Leonard. 6'4" 215 pounds. This former track and basketball athlete runs a 4.5 40 He can outrun any front seven and some DB's. What's unusual about him is that for very mobile QB's ( usually aren't as tall as him, ) he is as good as a passer ( 67.7% ) with so few interceptions. In that respect he is a unicorn. His TD passes are poor but there are not good receivers at Duke. Good scouting is needed. I myself have seen him play yet.

                6. ) Micheal Pexix. This six year college player had a very good 5th year. He also has had too many injuries which will need to be checked out. But his play is excellent.

                These six men imo can all be first round picks. The Steelers should pick one of them in round one, unless of course they are happy with Pickett.

                Some good college games for these future NFL millionaire QB's

                Williams plays Colorado and they should blow them away, but he has not been lights out recently. Dion's boy and the Buffalo's are going to be blown out, like they were last week.

                Nix has been brilliant. IMO, he is now the best prospect on the board and draws Stanford.

                Maye plays 'Cuse.

                Allar plays NorthWestern

                There is a good game testing situation for Duke's Leonard vs the Norte Dame. QB Hartman 6'1" 210 LBS 70% competitions 14 TD's 0 ints in now my sixth man on the list. This QB class is EXCELLENT.
                Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 09-30-2023, 07:42 PM.
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • WindyCitySteel
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                  • Nov 2011
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Some good college games for these future NFL millionaire QB's

                  Williams plays Colorado and they should blow them away, but he has not been lights out recently. Dion's boy and the Buffalo's are going to be blow out, like they were last week.

                  Nix has been brilliant. IMO, he is now the best prospect on the board and draws Stanford.

                  Maye plays 'Cuse.

                  Allar plays NorthWestern

                  There is a good game testing situation for Duke's Leonard vs the Norte Dame. QB Hartman 6'1" 210 LBS 70% competitions 14 TD's 0 ints in now my sixth man on the list. This QB class is EXCELLENT.
                  Hartman's 24 years old and just played his first good team and put up 14 at home.

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                  • feltdizz
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                    • May 2008
                    • 27127

                    #24
                    Well Colorado wasn’t blown out but USC’s defense is straight trash.

                    I’m on the fence with Caleb. He doesn’t deliver a lot of balls on schedule. He is a beast at improvising and extending plays but rarely do you see quick reads by him which is something you have to do at the next level.

                    He will still go number 1 if he leaves but I know he doesn’t want to go to a few teams.
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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
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                      • Jan 2021
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                      #25
                      There is a good game testing situation for Duke's Leonard vs the Norte Dame. QB Hartman 6'1" 210 LBS 70% competitions 14 TD's 0 ints in now my sixth man on the list. This QB class is EXCELLEN
                      T.


                      Well, I saw Leonard play. IMO he is not a passing QB. And his arm looks lacking. He is off the list. I'll come up with a new #1-#6 QB who could be drafted into the NFL at a later date.
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                        T.


                        Well, I saw Leonard play. IMO he is not a passing QB. And his arm looks lacking. He is off the list. I'll come up with a new #1-#6 QB who could be drafted into the NFL at a later date.
                        Why am I not surprised you didn’t watch a QB play before making the list?
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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
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                          • Jan 2021
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Why am I not surprised you didn’t watch a QB play before making the list?
                          Dude there are 112 D1 teams. You have never commented on some one your have seen play in a game ( not the video highlights ) Really?

                          You are a joke.
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27127

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                            Dude there are 112 D1 teams. You have never commented on some one your have seen play in a game ( not the video highlights ) Really?

                            You are a joke.

                            why would I comment on someone I’ve never seen play a game and act like I know a ton about them if I just copy and pasted descriptions from random list?

                            That is how you end up saying things that don’t align with what transpired on the field

                            its how people can end up repeating dumb stuff like “Will Levis could go number #1”

                            if those people actually watched him play last year, they probably would’ve said “ I dont know why people keep saying Levis could go #1”

                            I was joking tho, but not really. Its just incredibly easy to watch games these days and commenting on players you haven’t watched can make you look uninformed and clueless to people who have actually watched them play already.
                            Last edited by feltdizz; 10-01-2023, 09:08 AM.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27127

                              #29
                              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                              Hartman's 24 years old and just played his first good team and put up 14 at home.
                              this is what I mean by watching QB’s play before putting them on list and giving them props.

                              I watched the 4th quarter of the Duke/ND game. Nice comeback win but still don’t think ND is all that good this year. Hartman damn sure isn’t a first round QB. 5th round if he’s lucky.
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                              • Joel Buchsbaum
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                                • Jan 2021
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                                #30
                                I was joking tho, but not really. Its just incredibly easy to watch games these days and commenting on players you haven’t watched can make you look uninformed and clueless to people who have actually watched them play already.
                                I had notice you say your joking a lot, misrepresent what I say, and move goalposts. We all do it, comment on players we have not been play in full games by the way for the draft.

                                Now I' m beginning to think you don't like me like say a Raven fan would. Now that is a joke!

                                I ask again for your to quote me correctly . It looks something like this:


                                ) Riley Leonard. 6'4" 215 pounds. This former track and basketball athlete runs a 4.5 40 He can outrun any front seven and some DB's. What's unusual about him is that for very mobile QB's ( usually aren't as tall as him, ) he is as good as a passer ( 67.7% ) with so few interceptions. In that respect he is a unicorn. His TD passes are poor but there are not good receivers at Duke. Good scouting is needed. I myself have seen him play yet.
                                >>> Now I have saw him play yesterday. He is not a top 6 draft eligible QB in my opinion. His QB clock, and ability to read a defense need work and his accuracy seems to be so-so. His arm is not that good either.

                                As I stated good scouting is needed on him.
                                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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