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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 26053

    #16
    Originally posted by whisper
    Having "press coverage" CBs sound good on paper, but it doesn't always work out that way. J Peezy Jr. is gonna find NFL WRs can "get away" from his press coverage and get wide open. What's he gonna do then? Pick off the pass? Not according to his history.
    That is what safeties are for my friend. Besides, disrupting timing and giving enough time for the pass rush to hit home is an equal part of playing press. WRs in the NFL are going to catch passes. The rules are written for it. Limiting the damage is what CBs (and safeties) are tasked with.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27131

      #17
      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
      Thanks. I'd like to hear from a PSU fans who saw most of there games take on Porter jr.

      Here is video of the Steelers ( why doesn't Tomlin have a PC / smart device, everyone else in the room does ) of Porter jr being drafted.

      https://www.nfl.com/prospects/joey-p...1-894fa5a2ca5d
      This isn’t a video of the war room.

      Why the hell do you guys keep pointing out what is or isn’t in front of Tomlin?
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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        • May 2008
        • 10069

        #18
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        This is a fair point, but he has shown this ability to play press coverage in college, and we have lacked such a player for a while. With our pass rush having the ability to play press coverage well is an asset. Porter must watch those grabby hands but when the ball is in the air on short routes, his lenght and abiltiy to defend the pass by getting in position to knocking it down is clearly an asset.

        Can he defend the other routes well? I don't know because he was rearly put in position to do so. Scouting corners is tough business, just look at the bust rate at the position. I clue you in, its high. Maybe somelse has the data.

        BUT at least the ability to play press and have a good pass rush compliments each other as those 5-8 yard cushion can disappear when you can play that style of coverage.

        IMO, Porter went to the right team. I am a big believer in NFL bloodlines. If he is half as good as his dad was, we have a player! Porter sr was a great LB in coverage.

        -JB
        All true. This is the crap shoot of the draft. He definitely passes the eye test physically. He has competed well against top college competition. He has shown at a college level to have a skill that this team covets. He has bloodlines. He has connections for top flight assistance if he needs help. Almost everything a team looks for when drafting.

        But unless he puts it together on the field, he is just another guy who looked like he should have hit but didn't.
        http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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        • Blitzer
          Pro Bowler
          • Nov 2022
          • 1072

          #19
          He was basically a 1st roud pick. I would hope he starts at some point. And I hope the do not annoint him the starter. make him earn it.

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          • Joel Buchsbaum
            Legend
            • Jan 2021
            • 7547

            #20
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            This isn’t a video of the war room.

            Why the hell do you guys keep pointing out what is or isn’t in front of Tomlin?
            There is a video playing the moment he was drafted in the link. It is the war room. I'm stating that Tomlin has no screen, laptop, or smart dive showing, the other coaches and GM's do. Why? Other war rooms show the head coaches with a screens. Tomlin not having one is very old school.
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • whisper
              Legend
              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #21
              he locked people down with coverage so good people did not go after him.
              rotmfflmmfao

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              • whisper
                Legend
                • Mar 2020
                • 9423

                #22
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                There is a video playing the moment he was drafted in the link. It is the war room. I'm stating that Tomlin has no screen, laptop, or smart dive showing, the other coaches and GM's do. Why? Other war rooms show the head coaches with a screens. Tomlin not having one is very old school.
                Cool Shades bases drafts on how his chicken wing dinners go. Old school.

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                • NJ-STEELER
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                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  There is a video playing the moment he was drafted in the link. It is the war room. I'm stating that Tomlin has no screen, laptop, or smart dive showing, the other coaches and GM's do. Why? Other war rooms show the head coaches with a screens. Tomlin not having one is very old school.
                  I saw that and took it as a sign to let the GMs do what they do best.

                  hopefully they get away from tomlin being so involved in the draft process.
                  let him concentrate on coaching.
                  Maybe the game planning and game management won?t suck as much.

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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
                    Legend
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7547

                    #24
                    Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                    All true. This is the crap shoot of the draft. He definitely passes the eye test physically. He has competed well against top college competition. He has shown at a college level to have a skill that this team covets. He has bloodlines. He has connections for top flight assistance if he needs help. Almost everything a team looks for when drafting.

                    But unless he puts it together on the field, he is just another guy who looked like he should have hit but didn't.
                    At Offensive Line the crap shoot of the draft among the first 32 players drafted ( as Porter was ) ... you need to roll a 7 or 11 to find a good player. In other words good odds. At corner back the odds and a bit worse say you needs to roll a 3 or 12 to find a good player. For those who understand Craps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craps that is my take on the game and the draft. It's a crap shoot.
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
                      Legend
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7547

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      I saw that and took it as a sign to let the GMs do what they do best.

                      hopefully they get away from tomlin being so involved in the draft process.
                      let him concentrate on coaching.
                      Maybe the game planning and game management won?t suck as much.
                      It a sign that Tomiln is very involved or too school old to use a pc. He might not even have one in his office. Other NFL head coaches use PC's or smart devices during draft day.
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • NJ-STEELER
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                        It a sign that Tomiln is very involved or too school old to use a pc. He might not even have one in his office. Other NFL head coaches use PC's or smart devices during draft day.
                        The video I saw, he was away from khan weidl and the scouts.
                        up front by the tv as Porter was getting announced.
                        while khan was in the phone and a laptop with weidl focused on his laptop as well.

                        as almost to say. Go over there Mikey and let the pros handle this. Lol

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          It a sign that Tomiln is very involved or too school old to use a pc. He might not even have one in his office. Other NFL head coaches use PC's or smart devices during draft day.
                          That's your boy! Tomlin is old school..per 1992!! No laptop; no X's & O's in tight games; Tomlin running it the way that's been so succesful for him the last 6 playoff years. Yeah!!

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27131

                            #28
                            lmao.. so hilarious seeing folks cherry pick Tomlin’s involvement in the draft based off a photo or 10 second video clip.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 15974

                              #29
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              lmao.. so hilarious seeing folks cherry pick Tomlin?s involvement in the draft based off a photo or 10 second video clip.
                              They are scared of the future success and are proactively trying to make the case that Tomlin had nothing to do with it.

                              I can hear it now.

                              IT WAS KHANS TEAM.
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                              • hawaiiansteel
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 35216

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                They are scared of the future success and are proactively trying to make the case that Tomlin had nothing to do with it.

                                I can hear it now.

                                IT WAS KHANS TEAM.
                                Tomlin could only win with Khan's players.

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