KP "Mechanically flawed"

[NorthCoast]

.... don't shoot the messenger.... .

Not an expert at QB mechanics but I do agree with one statement; "Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky are pretty much the same player". By that I am specifically referring to their 'look' playing the QB position, not their decision-making. Both have shown some incredible, strong throws and some weak, bad throws. KP has been able to limit his mistakes as he gained experience. MT seems to still be stuck with a rookie like game as far as decisionmaking goes.

What I am watching for this season is whether work ethic, film study, and 'want to' can raise the ceiling for KP.

(and Orlovsky?... yea, he pretty much sucked as a pro QB)

https://clutchpoints.com/mechanicall...mitch-trubisky

"Mechanically flawed": ESPN analyst's blunt criticism of Steelers QB?s Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky
Published May 20, 2023 at 6:23 PM EDT
By


Steve Silverman


The Pittsburgh Steelers have high expectations that quarterback Kenny Pickett is going to be a successful leader in his second year in the league and will be able to lead the team to a memorable season.


However, despite the high expectations of Pickett himself and Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, not all the critics remain convinced. Former NFL quarterback Dan Orlovsky, now an ESPN analyst, does not believe Pickett or Steelers backup quarterback Mitch Trubisky are much of a threat to join the top quarterbacks in the game.


?Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky are pretty much the same player,? Orlovsky said. ?They are guys that are good athletes that use their legs to help them become better players. They are average with their accuracy and mechanically flawed.?


Pickett started 12 games for the Steelers during his rookie season, and his team won 7 of those starts. The most encouraging aspect of that performance is that he was able to guide the Steelers to 4 consecutive wins to close the season.


Orlovsky?s criticism of Pickett seems quite harsh considering that closing stretch. Pickett completed 245 of 389 passes last season for 2,404 yards, but his 7-9 TD to interception ratio needs improvement.


Tomlin has said that he has seen quite a bit of growth from Kenny Pickett in the offseason and is expecting a more confident and competent signal caller in his second year.


On the other hand, Trubisky has struggled to throw the ball consistently since he was selected with the No. 2 pick in the draft by the Chicago Bears in 2017.

[Djfan]

It's not appropriate to compare them yet. Give it a few years until KP8 is a known commodity. As it is now, he is a learner who tries very hard. He might just do this.

[whisper]

It's not appropriate to compare them yet. Give it a few years until KP8 is a known commodity. As it is now, he is a learner who tries very hard. He might just do this.

I agree it's a bit early to compare. Dan knows what gets clicks, talk about Pgh.

[NorthCoast]

It's not appropriate to compare them yet. Give it a few years until KP8 is a known commodity. As it is now, he is a learner who tries very hard. He might just do this.

Maybe you would prefer this take instead:

"I think the Steelers have this formula when you have a young quarterback... Do not mess the game up for us. Do not lose the game for us," Brandt said. "Roethlisberger tried hard to lose that first Super Bowl that they won, but they won in spite of him. Pickett already gets it."

(NJS won't be happy with the comment on Roethlisberger...)

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...owl-contenders

[Mr.wizard]

Who cares if he's mechanically flawed, lots of great QB's are mechanically flawed.

[NorthCoast]

........ lots of great QB's are mechanically flawed.

???? not so sure about that. Rivers might be one of the few that comes to mind. Probably a lot of 'good QBs' fit that description.

Orlovsky doesn't really talk specifics so it's open ended as far as what he is seeing. Some flaws are fatal, other can be overcome or corrected.

All eyes are on Year 2 for KP.

[Iron City Inc.]

KP could become better with his accuracy. In a west coast type O yack increases as ball placement gets better.
From the neck up we saw a year ago a nice maturation from that Jet game to the end of the season where Pickett got through his progressions better with the much needed reps. He got to his 4th read late in the year and I can't remember ever seeing MT do that. Better decisions and quicker decisions allowed for the improved performance as the year progressed. That grasp of how to read the D and get the ball to the open guy n not force it into super tight windows is a key for any qb to be successful.
Simply put at year end we saw KP looking off safeties , keeping his eyes downfield even under the rush and not leaving the pocket to soon ( no happy feet). If he improves and matures as he gets more games under his belt imho no reason we couldn't win with him.

[feltdizz]

Anyone who thinks Mitch and Kenny are the same won’t be taken seriously by me.

[Steel Maniac]

KP could become better with his accuracy. In a west coast type O yack increases as ball placement gets better.
From the neck up we saw a year ago a nice maturation from that Jet game to the end of the season where Pickett got through his progressions better with the much needed reps. He got to his 4th read late in the year and I can't remember ever seeing MT do that. Better decisions and quicker decisions allowed for the improved performance as the year progressed. That grasp of how to read the D and get the ball to the open guy n not force it into super tight windows is a key for any qb to be successful.
Simply put at year end we saw KP looking off safeties , keeping his eyes downfield even under the rush and not leaving the pocket to soon ( no happy feet). If he improves and matures as he gets more games under his belt imho no reason we couldn't win with him.

Who's grooming KP? That's the first question that needs to ask. Do you believer this "groomer" is legit? If he is,..then ok; future looks good. But what if the "groomer" is a cornball? Then KP is D.O.R.

[Mr.wizard]

???? not so sure about that. Rivers might be one of the few that comes to mind. Probably a lot of 'good QBs' fit that description.

Orlovsky doesn't really talk specifics so it's open ended as far as what he is seeing. Some flaws are fatal, other can be overcome or corrected.

All eyes are on Year 2 for KP.

Once you reach this level there isn't any starting QB that has a fatal mechanical flawed. This all little stuff like footwork and arm angles which you could probably find with any QB.