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    KP: Bad News/Good News

    Ranked below (28th) the rookie QBs drafted this year, that's bad news. If it turns out to be true, the Steelers will be picking in the top 5 in next year's draft, that's good news:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...l-32-starters/

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    well if Cody said it then it must be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    well if Cody said it then it must be true.
    Apparently the one year of experience for KP didn't buy him any higher ranking over the rookies. Wasn't there a thread about KP being ranking 4 or 5th if he came out this year instead of last?

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    Well to rate Young and Stroud two rookie yet to play is bunk. You could argue that Howell is better than Pickett, though the sample size is very small.

    I generally agree with players related form #1-#12, though not necessarily the order of them. I agree with Pickett's placement and if he does not show big time improvement we need to either develop our #3 QB or draft one with our first and second round pick in 2024. For now Pickett is a low end starter who is a " game manger " that does not pass for many yards and benefited from us leaded the NFL in interceptions.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. Mike Tomlin says, " hell yeah we've got to make some changes. " We are waiting. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    This is kinda how I thought about KP after his first season at Pitt. Heck even a couple years in I wasn?t sure.

    But we?ve all seen his trajectory, his accuracy, his work ethic, his demeanor.

    Rank him 32.

    Kenny MF Pickett will be holding the Lombardi at the end of this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Apparently the one year of experience for KP didn't buy him any higher ranking over the rookies. Wasn't there a thread about KP being ranking 4 or 5th if he came out this year instead of last?
    yes..you are correct.
    From the 2011-2022 season,(A 12 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Apparently the one year of experience for KP didn't buy him any higher ranking over the rookies. Wasn't there a thread about KP being ranking 4 or 5th if he came out this year instead of last?
    I think that in that thread the thinking was:

    Young and Stroud would be a clear 1 & 2.
    Richardson and Levis were below with lots of question marks. Pickett would have fallen in line with them.
    Based on how the draft played out, it makes sense that Pickett would have been somewhere between Richardson and Levis (who obviously fell out of favor), which would place him somewhere around where he was drafted the year before.

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    I think it makes sense to rank him low based on the fact that he doesn't have much data.

    But he has the potential to rise a lot (these rankings are only about perception).

    I think the tough part in our situation is that he's probably the 4th best QB in the division (maybe the 3rd) and that the AFC has almost all of the good QBs in the league. Seems like that has the potential to pull our record down a bit.

    We'll see when the play the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Well to rate Young and Stroud two rookie yet to play is bunk. You could argue that Howell is better than Pickett, though the sample size is very small.

    I generally agree with players related form #1-#12, though not necessarily the order of them. I agree with Pickett's placement and if he does not show big time improvement we need to either develop our #3 QB or draft one with our first and second round pick in 2024. For now Pickett is a low end starter who is a " game manger " that does not pass for many yards and benefited from us leaded the NFL in interceptions.
    This.

    I think tiers are a much better way to do these things than rankings.

    And KP is in the "too early to tell" tier. I'd put him at the upper end of that tier over all the rookies and guys that were drafted last year (although Purdy had more team success). But it's too soon to tell for any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Well to rate Young and Stroud two rookie yet to play is bunk. You could argue that Howell is better than Pickett, though the sample size is very small.

    I generally agree with players related form #1-#12, though not necessarily the order of them. I agree with Pickett's placement and if he does not show big time improvement we need to either develop our #3 QB or draft one with our first and second round pick in 2024. For now Pickett is a low end starter who is a " game manger " that does not pass for many yards and benefited from us leaded the NFL in interceptions.
    How do you argue Howell is better than Pickett?

    I mean, you can argue ANYTHING but with Howell only playing one game played the last week of the season its not really going to move the needle
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