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Thread: Steelers’ 2023 Draft Haul Earns A+ Grade From Pro Football Focus

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    Draft grades are usually used as some validation for fans, especially when their team gets an A or A+. I do like the Steelers draft on paper, but to be completely honest these grades are useless in the grand scheme of things. I still remember the Chiefs getting some C to D grades after drafting Mahomes in 2017, and we all know how that looks now.

    All we can do is hope some of these guys can contribute to the team and make them better overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crushedspirit View Post
    Draft grades are usually used as some validation for fans, especially when their team gets an A or A+. I do like the Steelers draft on paper, but to be completely honest these grades are useless in the grand scheme of things. I still remember the Chiefs getting some C to D grades after drafting Mahomes in 2017, and we all know how that looks now.

    All we can do is hope some of these guys can contribute to the team and make them better overall.
    At the end of the day, your right.
    From the 2011-2022 season,(A 12 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Steeler fans still loving on Tomlin now, are the same as Dolphin fans in the 90's who were still loving on Shula for what he did in the 70's

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    Quote Originally Posted by crushedspirit View Post
    Draft grades are usually used as some validation for fans, especially when their team gets an A or A+. I do like the Steelers draft on paper, but to be completely honest these grades are useless in the grand scheme of things. I still remember the Chiefs getting some C to D grades after drafting Mahomes in 2017, and we all know how that looks now.

    All we can do is hope some of these guys can contribute to the team and make them better overall.
    I think it basically means that they seemed to do well based on publicly available information and predictions from us non-pros.

    But there's lots of private info that we don't see (like medicals and any substance abuse issues). And predicting future success is generally pretty hard.

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    Patrick Peterson on Darnell Washington: “To me, I thought that was the steal of the draft.

    https://twitter.com/Alex_Kozora?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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    Mason Rudolph and Baker Mayfield will be going at it for the next decade or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
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    Patrick Peterson on Darnell Washington: “To me, I thought that was the steal of the draft.

    https://twitter.com/Alex_Kozora?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    Don't tell whisper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzer View Post
    I recall a lot of fans questioning the RM pick immediately. and I admit to thinking Sweed was a steal. still dont know what went wrong with him
    As luck should have it, I didn't even know squat about sweed - and back then, those scouting videos weren't readily available. I definitely didn't like the RM pick his entire season and draft stock was based solely on a couple of busted plays against USC's defense.
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    The "Khan Artist" used his seven selections over three days to make the Steelers a bigger team in the trenches and a taller one on the perimeter.

    https://triblive.com/sports/khan-art...teelers-draft/
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    Mason Rudolph and Baker Mayfield will be going at it for the next decade or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nick-h...b-b9a0ebf10845

    weighed in at 240 lbs.

    maybe he joined bryce in chugging down a couple gallons of water right before weigh in
    I heard he added solid weight because he trained hard for the combine by the coaching team of Chestnut/Koboyashi





    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Don't get the hate, when PFF grades the Steelers poorly, people complain. When they grade them well, people still complain.

    Maybe take the good with the bad news instead of always killing the messenger.
    Makes perfect sense. Why the surprise? We keep telling you that criticism on this forum is not just about them hating Steelers.

    It is that their methodology is not perfect like some people seem to think.

    Do yourself a favor. Read up on their edge player ranking they put up as a stand alone article during TJs record season. Watt is deservedly listed as the best BY THEM.

    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-ed...ankings-tiers/

    They CLEARLY don’t hate him.

    However, they scored him fourth or 5th that season by their actual scoring system THAT SAME SEASON.

    Windy pff DOES NOT AGREE WITH THEIR OWN SCORING SYSTEM.

    Dude they rate Kenny higher than Dizz which is a pretty high bar.

    Clearly, they don’t hate Steelers.

    But the implication that Kenny has had a game on par with VINTAGE BEN? I like Kenny but that is ridiculous.

    I don’t say it has no value but it frequently does not meet a simple “use your eyes test.”
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 05-03-2023 at 10:56 AM.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Only time I like PFF is when they agree with me.. lol
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