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  • NJ-STEELER
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    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #46
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    its called contract “negotiations” for a reason.

    knocking a guy for being patient and getting almost everything he wanted is weird.

    I understand the frustration with the back and forth but it’s not like he held out for a year.
    dude. He wanted a fully guaranteed contact. How many times did we hear what his contract demands were. How many offers without the fully guaranteed money did he turn down.

    how his situation a win when
    it was always there for him to sign.
    there isn’t much difference from the contract he was being offered to the contract he signed after hurts extension went through.

    he finally woke up and listened to what people were saying from day 1.
    he was not getting a fully guaranteed deal.

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    • BURGH86STEEL
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      • May 2008
      • 6908

      #47
      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      If he was faking injury to avoid playing, I don't think of want him on my team.

      I think the reality is that his style of play makes him more likely to get injured.

      Which is why the super athletes at QB tend to have short careers if they aren't average to above average passers. Just like Ben lost his magic when he stopped being able to carry multiple DL while throwing bombs.
      Bettis said he faked an injury in camp to avoid being cut by the Steelers. Players and organizations make business financial decisions.

      NFL owners gave the financial keys to the best players when they started to handing out mostly guaranteed contracts to the best players in the league.

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      • BURGH86STEEL
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        • May 2008
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        #48
        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
        dude. He wanted a fully guaranteed contact. How many times did we hear what his contract demands were. How many offers without the fully guaranteed money did he turn down.

        how his situation a win when
        it was always there for him to sign.
        there isn’t much difference from the contract he was being offered to the contract he signed after hurts extension went through.

        he finally woke up and listened to what people were saying from day 1.
        he was not getting a fully guaranteed deal.
        Sometimes we don't always get what we want in life. LJ got 71% of his contract guaranteed. I would say that is a win. Mahomes got 31% of his contract guaranteed. Allen 58%. Wilson 66%. Hurts 70%.

        It's safe to say the Browns were fools.

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        • NJ-STEELER
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 12563

          #49
          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
          Sometimes we don't always get what we want in life. LJ got 71% of his contract guaranteed. I would say that is a win. Mahomes got 31% of his contract guaranteed. Allen 58%. Wilson 66%. Hurts 70%.

          It's safe to say the Browns were fools.

          Mahomes contract was 4 years ago.
          look at the trend since his contract was done.
          more and more guaranteed money.
          lamaar got 1% more then the contract signed the week before by hurts.
          both those deals fall in line of what was being signed at the time.

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27127

            #50
            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            dude. He wanted a fully guaranteed contact. How many times did we hear what his contract demands were. How many offers without the fully guaranteed money did he turn down.

            how his situation a win when
            it was always there for him to sign.
            there isn’t much difference from the contract he was being offered to the contract he signed after hurts extension went through.

            he finally woke up and listened to what people were saying from day 1.
            he was not getting a fully guaranteed deal.
            again, its called contract negotiations for a reason.

            Why not start at the top and work your way down vs the opposite? We see what he got and its a ton of money and more guaranteed money than anyone else since Watson signed.

            If he signed an offer made before Hurts’ deal it may have been for less.

            No one lost in this deal.
            Last edited by feltdizz; 04-30-2023, 02:16 PM.
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            • Eich
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              • Jul 2010
              • 6921

              #51
              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              dude. He wanted a fully guaranteed contact. How many times did we hear what his contract demands were. How many offers without the fully guaranteed money did he turn down.

              how his situation a win when
              it was always there for him to sign.
              there isn’t much difference from the contract he was being offered to the contract he signed after hurts extension went through.

              he finally woke up and listened to what people were saying from day 1.
              he was not getting a fully guaranteed deal.
              In Lamar's and Felt's defense, I think the "day one" offer was $131M guaranteed for 3 years. He "settled" for $185M guaranteed in a 5 year deal. Seems like he got the Rats to move fairly significantly unless there were some fine details that make both deals more similar.

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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #52
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                again, its called contract negotiations for a reason.

                Why not start at the top and work your way down vs the opposite? We see what he got and its a ton of money and more guaranteed money than anyone else since Watson signed.

                No one lost in this deal… well, not yet.
                did I say he didn’t get a good contract?
                I pointed out the author spin on it saying it was a win. And how clever he was going about getting that contract.

                a win would be what he initially wanted.
                the contract he signed was available from day 1 of these negations.
                Actually, before that since they negotiated though out the season. When he pouted and decided to sit out and not even attend the playoff game because negations weren’t going well
                he needed another contract to be signed to emulate the deal he got because thinking he would get a Watson type contract was dead wrong

                somehow you and this author think that’s a win.

                im shocked. Lol

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                • NJ-STEELER
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                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Eich
                  In Lamar's and Felt's defense, I think the "day one" offer was $131M guaranteed for 3 years. He "settled" for $185M guaranteed in a 5 year deal. Seems like he got the Rats to move fairly significantly unless there were some fine details that make both deals more similar.

                  that was just 1 of the rumored deals.
                  another was similiar ( a bit more) to Wilson’s contract.


                  once another contract was signed more along the lines of Wilsons. He knew he had to drop his demands for a watson type deal.
                  as what everybody with an opinion said he needed to do.
                  It finally got through to his thick head. Lol
                  Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 04-30-2023, 02:28 PM.

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                  • feltdizz
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                    • May 2008
                    • 27127

                    #54
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    did I say he didn’t get a good contract?
                    I pointed out the author spin on it saying it was a win. And how clever he was going about getting that contract.

                    a win would be what he initially wanted.
                    the contract he signed was available from day 1 of these negations.
                    Actually, before that since they negotiated though out the season. When he pouted and decided to sit out and not even attend the playoff game because negations weren’t going well
                    he needed another contract to be signed to emulate the deal he got because thinking he would get a Watson type contract was dead wrong

                    somehow you and this author think that’s a win.

                    im shocked. Lol
                    I think getting a good contract is a win.

                    You seem to believe making concessions in negotiations is a loss. I think he squeezed a few more dollars by being patient.
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                    • BURGH86STEEL
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6908

                      #55
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      Mahomes contract was 4 years ago.
                      look at the trend since his contract was done.
                      more and more guaranteed money.
                      lamaar got 1% more then the contract signed the week before by hurts.
                      both those deals fall in line of what was being signed at the time.
                      Translation LJ won. 185 mill is more money than probably all of us combined on this forum will see in our lifetimes an possibly our family will see in their lifetimes and possibly...........

                      Get my point? I thought that LJ should had taken the 1st reported guaranteed contract. He stuck to his guns. LJ won is my final answer.

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                      • BURGH86STEEL
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                        • May 2008
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        I think getting a good contract is a win.

                        You seem to believe making concessions in negotiations is a loss. I think he squeezed a few more dollars by being patient.
                        185 million. Think about that type of money. Only the idiots will haggle about how LJ failed. 185 mill is a win for anyone. I thought my 9% raise was a win. I could get more $ if I put myself out their as a FA.

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                        • crushedspirit
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Feb 2021
                          • 2201

                          #57
                          If the actual contract that he refused before is true, then the one he just signed is of a tad higher value, but less guaranteed money. How much of this signed contract is guaranteed at signing is yet to be revealed.

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                          • NJ-STEELER
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                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            #58
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            I think getting a good contract is a win.

                            You seem to believe making concessions in negotiations is a loss. I think he squeezed a few more dollars by being patient.

                            that’s fine. He could have waited even longer to see what burrow and or Herbert got but whatever.

                            the difference is minimal considering the amount the contract was.
                            again, the rumor being floated before this was 6 year 300M which he turned down.

                            this author is trying to spin this like this was sone genius maneuver by lamaar.

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                            • NJ-STEELER
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                              • May 2008
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                              Translation LJ won. 185 mill is more money than probably all of us combined on this forum will see in our lifetimes an possibly our family will see in their lifetimes and possibly...........

                              Get my point? I thought that LJ should had taken the 1st reported guaranteed contract. He stuck to his guns. LJ won is my final answer.

                              lol
                              he won what exactly?

                              tge money offered before was comparable to what he actually signed.
                              when he was offered 6 yr 300 M we all commented how he was foolish not to sign that.

                              the contract he signed is not much different then that offer.

                              you know what is different though ??
                              the money guaranteed in the contract he signed vs the contract he was after… fully guaranteed Like watsons.

                              Somehow you, dizz and the author thinks that a win. Why am I not surprised. Lol

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                              • BURGH86STEEL
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                                • May 2008
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                lol
                                he won what exactly?

                                tge money offered before was comparable to what he actually signed.
                                when he was offered 6 yr 300 M we all commented how he was foolish not to sign that.

                                the contract he signed is not much different then that offer.

                                you know what is different though ??
                                the money guaranteed in the contract he signed vs the contract he was after… fully guaranteed Like watsons.

                                Somehow you, dizz and the author thinks that a win. Why am I not surprised. Lol
                                NJ this shows the level of your incompetency, small mind, want to be right, or something else? You decide.

                                185 million guaranteed is a win. Spin it however you want.

                                Ask the forum.

                                LJ has 185 mill in the bank no matter what happens. 71% of his contract is set in stone. Win or loss for LJ?

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