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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Would you really be all that excited if we spent the most money in UFA and won a playoff game? Or would you complain that Tomlin wasted all that UFA money?

    I know what my money would be on in that bet
    Moving of the goal post from a TTTer. It was stated that spending money in FA did not equate to winning. I accurately cited the Jags who spent the most $ and DID win enough to win their div., AND win a playoff game (something Tomlin hasn't done in 6 years). The Jags hadn't been winning anything for years. They were the first pick in the draft for two straight years, if that tells you anything. So, then they spent some $ and low and behold won their div. and a playoff game. So then, here come the moving of the goalposts. Right on schedule.

    Claim: spending $ in FA does not allow you to win.
    Response: Jags spent the most, and did improve their winning significantly.
    Counter-response: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, not addressing the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    How long will it take you to work through this most recent butthurt phrase of me criticizing your 100% CONSTANT negativity. Everyone has some degree of negative takes, you and a couple others are on 100% of the time.

    That's the difference. You started a thread criticizing their draft day ball cap.
    Don't dismiss the importance of the cap design my friend.

    It is SO UGLY that if a player is to wear it, I fear he will go full "Elway" on us and hold out until we are forced to trade him to another team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    It's a nuanced thing. The Steelers have drafted not very well lately, as has been pointed out in other threads. They NEED to supplement in FA, but they choose the quantity over quality route, often taking bargains on reclamation projects (Jack, Shobert, Moncrief, Barron, Bostic, Green, etc.). I call it papering over holes instead of filling them.

    Obviously you can't go out and buy every top FA, but instead of getting five average guys who will likely not stick long, why not sign one impact player for the same money?

    This is the same conservative philosophy that shows up in game plans - they guard against what they perceive are "glaring holes", but end up with a roster full of mostly average players. That's led to 1 double digit win season in the last 5 with zero playoff success, and it's not trending up.

    Basically, it feels like they're securing 8-9 wins a year and they're content with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Then what happened the last decade or so?
    What I wrote in the post you quoted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Moving of the goal post from a TTTer. It was stated that spending money in FA did not equate to winning. I accurately cited the Jags who spent the most $ and DID win enough to win their div., AND win a playoff game (something Tomlin hasn't done in 6 years). The Jags hadn't been winning anything for years. They were the first pick in the draft for two straight years, if that tells you anything. So, then they spent some $ and low and behold won their div. and a playoff game. So then, here come the moving of the goalposts. Right on schedule.

    Claim: spending $ in FA does not allow you to win.
    Response: Jags spent the most, and did improve their winning significantly.
    Counter-response: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, not addressing the point.
    Again...they had the same record we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Again...they had the same record we did.
    And won their div. AND a playoff game. Did you forget about that part? When's the last time we won a payoff game? Oh, wait, 6 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Moving of the goal post from a TTTer. It was stated that spending money in FA did not equate to winning. I accurately cited the Jags who spent the most $ and DID win enough to win their div., AND win a playoff game (something Tomlin hasn't done in 6 years). The Jags hadn't been winning anything for years. They were the first pick in the draft for two straight years, if that tells you anything. So, then they spent some $ and low and behold won their div. and a playoff game. So then, here come the moving of the goalposts. Right on schedule.

    Claim: spending $ in FA does not allow you to win.
    Response: Jags spent the most, and did improve their winning significantly.
    Counter-response: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, not addressing the point.
    Now imagine if we had the #1 pick 2 years in a row and went 9-8 and committed 5 turnovers in the first half before an epic comeback?

    I seriously doubt you would credit the FO and head coach for that W.

    the talk would be how we won in spite of.. and only won because the other team had a QB who made his first trip to the playoffs.
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    It's a nuanced thing. The Steelers have drafted not very well lately, as has been pointed out in other threads. They NEED to supplement in FA, but they choose the quantity over quality route, often taking bargains on reclamation projects (Jack, Shobert, Moncrief, Barron, Bostic, Green, etc.). I call it papering over holes instead of filling them.

    Obviously you can't go out and buy every top FA, but instead of getting five average guys who will likely not stick long, why not sign one impact player for the same money?

    This is the same conservative philosophy that shows up in game plans - they guard against what they perceive are "glaring holes", but end up with a roster full of mostly average players. That's led to 1 double digit win season in the last 5 with zero playoff success, and it's not trending up.

    Basically, it feels like they're securing 8-9 wins a year and they're content with that.
    yes. That's what it feels like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    yes. That's what it feels like.
    Maybe hit 10 wins this year, proclaim another Tomlin victory, no losing season and all that, lose week 1 in playoffs, refuse to re-sign Canada, blame everything on him, then move on. Next year, same thing. Mission accomplished. Yinzers brag about no losing season, etc. Offense improves to about 20 PPG, lowest of all teams in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    And won their div. AND a playoff game. Did you forget about that part? When's the last time we won a payoff game? Oh, wait, 6 years ago.
    And MIA spent the 2nd most and ended with the same record as the Steelers. And the Raiders spent the 3rd most and won 3 fewer games than the Steelers.

    btw, if JAX and MIA were in the AFCN they would have missed the playoffs and would spent all that FA money for nothing.

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