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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Name 1..

    ok, name 2…

    Now name 3..
    Fleltdizz, I wasn't talking to you. Wizard replied so why do you attempt to take credit by piggybacking off his reply? Imo, Wizard is a smarter poster in comparison to you. But humor me and see it you can name an exception to the rule. Someone not named. This will be interesting.

    The terms thus:

    Show me the NFL qb's who have tiny hands under 9", and is one year wonders of good production in college , that scored a 17 or under in the wondererlic that tuned out to be a good pro. I am analyzing the data. I can't name one qb that was good having such low attributes. These were 210_ qb's drafted from 1990-2023. Again small hands ( less than 9" ) , a 17 or below wonderlic and a 1 year wonder of good production only. Am I describing anyone you can think of? Don't hate the data. I'm Just saying....[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 03-26-2023 at 05:25 PM.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Not by his avg per pass #s: he was a mere 6.2; if that doesn't improve a lot, we're headed for problems. YPP is huge. You can hang your hat on that #. And so is TD/int. He was only 7-9 there. Not good enough.
    +1. Yep. You could say of he doesn't start leading the offense to more points, we are in trouble.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Fleltdizz, I wasn't talking to you. Wizard replied so why do you attempt to take credit by piggybacking off his reply? Imo, Wizard is a smarter poster in comparison to you. But humor me and see it you can name an exception to the rule. Someone not named. This will be interesting.

    The terms thus:

    Show me the NFL qb's who have tiny hands under 9", and is one year wonders of good production in college , that scored a 17 or under in the wondererlic that tuned out to be a good pro. I am analyzing the data. I can't name one qb that was good having such low attributes. These were 210_ qb's drafted from 1990-2023. Again small hands ( less than 9" ) , a 17 or below wonderlic and a 1 year wonder of good production only. Am I describing anyone you can think of? Don't hate the data. I'm Just saying....
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    Joel,

    do you think the Wonderlic matters on the field? the hand size I know everyone is concerned with but Joe Burrows hands are not much bigger and he does not have any problems

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    the hand size I know everyone is concerned with but Joe Burrows hands are not much bigger and he does not have any problems
    The hand size thing is a myth, hard to believe people still believe it. His hands are bigger than Burrow's, the NFL measurement is flawed for a number or reasons, this is one. Another is that the pinky is almost inconsequential in throwing a football, but I digress.

    https://twitter.com/josephperson/sta...401242119?s=20

    Pelissaro explains it at the link above. Wrapped around the ball his hand is closer to 9.5 inches, NFL measures a flat hand on the table, he can't flatten his hand. It's really that simple.

    This is much ado about nothing, who else would have had more inside information than the Steelers to know this?

    If someone is still promoting this as a Pickett detractor, they're either being disingenuous or are grossly ignorant of the situation. Either way, I'm tossing that person's opinions on Pickett into the rubbish bin.
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 03-26-2023 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Fleltdizz, I wasn't talking to you. Wizard replied so why do you attempt to take credit by piggybacking off his reply? Imo, Wizard is a smarter poster in comparison to you. But humor me and see it you can name an exception to the rule. Someone not named. This will be interesting.

    The terms thus:

    Show me the NFL qb's who have tiny hands under 9", and is one year wonders of good production in college , that scored a 17 or under in the wondererlic that tuned out to be a good pro. I am analyzing the data. I can't name one qb that was good having such low attributes. These were 210_ qb's drafted from 1990-2023. Again small hands ( less than 9" ) , a 17 or below wonderlic and a 1 year wonder of good production only. Am I describing anyone you can think of? Don't hate the data. I'm Just saying....
    I wasn’t talking to you..

    and no, I’m not answering your silly questions.
    Last edited by feltdizz; 03-26-2023 at 06:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wizard View Post
    Exactly, this guy just cant ever admit that he got something wrong, he just keeps moving the goal posts.
    I have never met two people as unable and unwilling to ever admit they were wrong as Joel and Steel Maniac.

    I'm gonna have my Tech guy check their IP addresses to see if they live within 20 miles of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    I have never met two people as unable and unwilling to ever admit they were wrong as Joel and Steel Maniac.
    You've obviously never met my wife...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    You've obviously never met my wife...
    The Two Rules of Marriage

    Rule 1 - the wife is never wrong.
    Rule 2 - when the wife is wrong, see Rule 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    +1. Yep. You could say of he doesn't start leading the offense to more points, we are in trouble.
    He will. It is what happens to rookie QBs.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    The hand size thing is a myth, hard to believe people still believe it. His hands are bigger than Burrow's, the NFL measurement is flawed for a number or reasons, this is one. Another is that the pinky is almost inconsequential in throwing a football, but I digress.

    https://twitter.com/josephperson/sta...401242119?s=20

    Pelissaro explains it at the link above. Wrapped around the ball his hand is closer to 9.5 inches, NFL measures a flat hand on the table, he can't flatten his hand. It's really that simple.

    This is much ado about nothing, who else would have had more inside information than the Steelers to know this?

    If someone is still promoting this as a Pickett detractor, they're either being disingenuous or are grossly ignorant of the situation. Either way, I'm tossing that person's opinions on Pickett into the rubbish bin.
    I know you can't have a small hand. Pickett is the smallest QB hands hands in the NFL, which is large by normal human male standards. Pickett compensates a bit by wearing two pairs of gloves to help him grip the football. IMO this takes a little bit off accuracy. This is legal as long as the isn't any type of adhesion on the glove.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 03-27-2023 at 06:18 AM.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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