Are four QBs really going top ten?

[WindyCitySteel]

NFL execs and coaches smokescreened a lot of analysts and fans last year, some who had several going in the first, including Willis #1 overall and Pickett 6th to Carolina. Fool me once...

Analysts are probably overthinking this again, seeing the next Lamar or Josh Allen in every athletic QB with a big arm. This is how gamblers go broke after winning a big bet early on.

Smart money says OL, DL, and CB dominate the picks before 1.17, unfortunately.

[Djfan]

I hope all four go before our 1.17 pick. That leaves more big uglies for us.

[Oviedo]

Three will go for certain: Stroud, Young and Levis. The wildcard is Richardson because he is a project. Everyone knew last year's QB class was the weakest in a decade so no surprise those guys dropped.

I'm still not betting the farm on an OT for us at #17...if they are there. Just this past week, you have heard from Ben and others associated with the team or with inside access that the team is not as down on Chuks and Moore and fans are. Both are athletic and experienced. I've always said that Moore's issue was the weak link he had next him...Dotson..

[feltdizz]

Not sure if Richardson is top 10 but I think the other 3 will be selected. I think FO’s bought into the hype of this years draft vs last year so we saw teams use patience or totally ignore the QB position.

This year I expect teams to play overdraft QB’s because the NFL and draft experts love QB’s from big schools.

Hopefully someone drops that we have on our board and we get great value at 17.

That being said, would not be surprised if Levis drops out of the top 10 as well because I don’t think he is legit but the way teams love QB’s with size and an arm I see him being overdrafted.

[feltdizz]

Three will go for certain: Stroud, Young and Levis. The wildcard is Richardson because he is a project. Everyone knew last year's QB class was the weakest in a decade so no surprise those guys dropped.

I'm still not betting the farm on an OT for us at #17...if they are there. Just this past week, you have heard from Ben and others associated with the team or with inside access that the team is not as down on Chuks and Moore and fans are. Both are athletic and experienced. I've always said that Moore's issue was the weak link he had next him...Dotson..

I think the 2022 draft is going to bite people in the ass. Still think Howell and Ridder and Pickett are going to be solid QB’s who have good careers.

Going to laugh my ass off if Stroud and Young end up being average QB’s but since they went to Ohio State and Bama they get lifted into can’t miss territory. I do like Young though. Stroud is hard to evaluate simply because we have seen so many Buckeye QB’s look unstoppable and then the NFL chews ‘em up and spits them out.

[WindyCitySteel]

I think the 2022 draft is going to bite people in the ass. Still think Howell and Ridder and Pickett are going to be solid QB’s who have good careers.

Going to laugh my ass off if Stroud and Young end up being average QB’s but since they went to Ohio State and Bama they get lifted into can’t miss territory. I do like Young though. Stroud is hard to evaluate simply because we have seen so many Buckeye QB’s look unstoppable and then the NFL chews ‘em up and spits them out.

Like who besides Haskins? Nobody else was drafted in the first or second round except Fields, and he's far from being chewed up and spit out.

[NJ-STEELER]

I think they all go before 17

[feltdizz]

Like who besides Haskins? Nobody else was drafted in the first or second round except Fields, and he's far from being chewed up and spit out.

Pick any QB since the early 2000’s

Troy Smith
Pryor
Cordarol (sp)
Haskins

all these QB’s had great college careers. Some won national championships.

Not writing Fields off but thought he would be further along as a passer because the word is Day was drafted NFL ready QB’s.

Until it actually happens I’m not going to give them credit. I can see Stroud breaking the curse but if he doesn’t, I will not be surprised at all.

[WindyCitySteel]

Pick any QB since the early 2000’s

Troy Smith
Pryor
Cordarol (sp)
Haskins

all these QB’s had great college careers. Some won national championships.

BESIDES Haskins. Those other guys were 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks, nobody expected them to tear up the league. CJ Stroud has nothing to do with the fact that those guys were middling to bad NFL prospects.

Who has Pitt put in the NFL besides Marino 40 years ago? Is the Marino success why you thought Kenny was a good pick?

[Iron City Inc.]

Lots of QB needy teams so I say yes to all four going top 10.

[feltdizz]

BESIDES Haskins. Those other guys were 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks, nobody expected them to tear up the league. CJ Stroud has nothing to do with the fact that those guys were middling to bad NFL prospects.

Who has Pitt put in the NFL besides Marino 40 years ago? Is the Marino success why you thought Kenny was a good pick?

Pitt hasn’t put anyone notable in the league since Marino. But they also haven’t been winning BCS Championships and making the playoffs with good QB play.

I didn’t say the Buckeyes had a bunch of 1st rounders bust. I said they had a lot of success in college with notable QB’s who failed in the NFL.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

NFL execs and coaches smokescreened a lot of analysts and fans last year, some who had several going in the first, including Willis #1 overall and Pickett 6th to Carolina. Fool me once...

Analysts are probably overthinking this again, seeing the next Lamar or Josh Allen in every athletic QB with a big arm. This is how gamblers go broke after winning a big bet early on.

Smart money says OL, DL, and CB dominate the picks before 1.17, unfortunately.

With the money is QB are getting theses days on their second contact, I roll the dice on a QB in the draft, easily if you do not have a top 12 qb. Or you can be stupid and pay a guy like Watson or Murray a small mint to sign. IMO none of these qb's were the prospect that Herbret, Burrow or Lawrence were. They fit this label of franchise QB's.

I read a lot to hype on Young. But when I evaluate his game he is a tiny QB ( played at 185 pounds they say ) who had durability issues, measured poorly 5'10", and was sacked a lot behind Alabama line ( with very good OL players ) . Read flag waring! He did not prove his 40 yard dash, 10 yard dahs, ball MHP or 20 yard shuttle at the Combine or Pro day. What are you hiding ? BUT Bennett did that ( he showed good velocity and Quickness ) and threw at the combine displaying a good arm tied Levis with for ball velocity with Levis. Oh by the way he has better football number numbers. So why is one guy labeled a top 10 pick and the other guy thought of and a 3rd round pick or day three pick? You tell me!

I think Young is going to be drafted lower that the media is projecting and Bennett much higher than the media is projecting. My call as of 3-24-23.

My opinion on Stroud is he is better QB, with a better ams, but he didn't prove his 40 yard time, 10 yard time, ball MHP, or 20 yard shuttle either at the Combine or Pro day! Why? Might theses times and drill dip his stock? His play on tape matter but so do these things.


Levis Levis is one of the top signal-caller prospects in this year's draft and a strong candidate to land in the top 10 overall. He improved his draft stock with an excelllet performance.

He measured in at 6'4" and 229 pounds and registered a 34-inch vertical leap and a 10'4" broad jump. He has a 10⅝" hand size and a 32-inch arm length.

The physical talent is clearly there for Levis, who registered a 59 mph ball velocity. We know his number because he did not hide them. However he did not run either. He did not throw light outs in game either.

This are the qb talents teams will reach for. The wonderlic tests are not reported, but if one if these three tests high there they will be leaked.

[WindyCitySteel]

Pitt hasn’t put anyone notable in the league since Marino. But they also haven’t been winning BCS Championships and making the playoffs with good QB play.

I didn’t say the Buckeyes had a bunch of 1st rounders bust. I said they had a lot of success in college with notable QB’s who failed in the NFL.

Teams win championships, not QBs. Do you expect Stetson Bennett to get drafted before day 3?

Haskins was the first OSU bust at QB since Schlichter 41 years ago.

[feltdizz]

Teams win championships, not QBs. Do you expect Stetson Bennett to get drafted before day 3?

Haskins was the first OSU bust at QB since Schlichter 41 years ago.

Troy Smith won the Heisman in 2006. Stop acting like he was along for the ride. Dude broke records at the time.

but I agree teams win championships.. keep that same energy when people are debating QB’s and bring up SB’s or SB appearances.

[feltdizz]

With the money is QB are getting theses days on their second contact, I roll the dice on a QB in the draft, easily if you do not have a top 12 qb. Or you can be stupid and pay a guy like Watson or Murray a small mint to sign. IMO none of these qb's were the prospect that Herbret, Burrow or Lawrence were. They fit this label of franchise QB's.

I read a lot to hype on Young. But when I evaluate his game he is a tiny QB ( played at 185 pounds they say ) who had durability issues, measured poorly 5'10", and was sacked a lot behind Alabama line ( with very good OL players ) . Read flag waring! He did not prove his 40 yard dash, 10 yard dahs, ball MHP or 20 yard shuttle at the Combine or Pro day. What are you hiding ? BUT Bennett did that ( he showed good velocity and Quickness ) and threw at the combine displaying a good arm tied Levis with for ball velocity with Levis. Oh by the way he has better football number numbers. So why is one guy labeled a top 10 pick and the other guy thought of and a 3rd round pick or day three pick? You tell me!

I think Young is going to be drafted lower that the media is projecting and Bennett much higher than the media is projecting. My call as of 3-24-23.

My opinion on Stroud is he is better QB, with a better ams, but he didn't prove his 40 yard time, 10 yard time, ball MHP, or 20 yard shuttle either at the Combine or Pro day! Why? Might theses times and drill dip his stock? His play on tape matter but so do these things.


Levis Levis is one of the top signal-caller prospects in this year's draft and a strong candidate to land in the top 10 overall. He improved his draft stock with an excelllet performance.

He measured in at 6'4" and 229 pounds and registered a 34-inch vertical leap and a 10'4" broad jump. He has a 10⅝" hand size and a 32-inch arm length.

The physical talent is clearly there for Levis, who registered a 59 mph ball velocity. We know his number because he did not hide them. However he did not run either. He did not throw light outs in game either.

This are the qb talents teams will reach for. The wonderlic tests are not reported, but if one if these three tests high there they will be leaked.

Herbert is 15-17 as a starter and 0-1 in the playoffs even though his defense forced 5 turnovers in on half of football.

If Kenny or Murray or anyone else you don’t like had that record and epic loss you would shred them to pieces.

Young is going 1 or 2. I doubt he drops much further than that and if he does trams will regret it. Alabama did NOT have a good OL last year compared to what they usually have. He was sacked 18 times. Maybe that is a lot for Alabama but its because Bama throws a whole lot more than they used to in the past. If you actually watched Young you would be honest and admit dude is similar to Patrick Mahomes keeping plays alive and finding open WR’s. He’s shifty. That whodini move vs Texas.. crazy.

Neither Stroud or Young are runners.. so its not important for them to run 40 times IMO.

The biggest question mark is timing. They won’t have all day to sit back and wait or run around to keep plays alive.

Levis ain’t it. Dude is all muscle, no touch and has game tapes are hard to digest.