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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Hey, I'm in that post:


    To which I said


    To which Joel replied



    The search function is not user friendly on this site. But learning how to use it can really end certain arguments (if people in those arguments are willing to admit they are wrong when provided proof).
    Yeah I replied in August going into his second season. Check the dates. Obviously he was not named the starter.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 03-24-2023 at 04:56 PM.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Yeah I replied in August going into his second season. Check the dates. Obviously he was not named the starter.
    We know this.

    Your prediction was wrong. It happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    We know this.

    Your prediction was wrong. It happens.
    Yes it does, But tell me who was our outside corners in the nickel and dime? You known the formations we play the most. I wait for you to reply.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Yes it does, But tell me who was our outside corners in the nickel and dime? You known the formations we play the most. I wait for you to reply.
    keep waiting. I’m not here to make you feel better about being wrong by answering a totally different question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Yes it does, But tell me who was our outside corners in the nickel and dime? You known the formations we play the most. I wait for you to reply.
    You know that's what I said in the post, right? That he'd play outside when we had 3 or 4 CBs but door in base?

    He probably did some of that. He played 36% of snaps in 21 (up from 3% on 20). My guess is that nickle + dime was 60 or more percent of snaps. So I don't think he was consistently in both.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 03-25-2023 at 05:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    You know that's what I said in the post, right? That he'd play outside when we had 3 or 4 CBs but door in base?

    He probably did some of that. He played 36% of snaps on 21 (up from 3% on 20). My guess is that nickle + dime was 60 or more percent of snaps. So I don't think he was consistently in both.
    Depo had Nickle (about 47%) plus dime (about 17%) at just under 65%.

    Maybe he was the dime back with some time in nickle die to injury? Or maybe he started as nickle back and got demoted, or started at dime and got promoted?

    He dressed all 17, started 4. So doesn't appear to have had a serious injury

    https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/st...final-results/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Depo had Nickle (about 47%) plus dime (about 17%) at just under 65%.

    Maybe he was the dime back with some time in nickle die to injury? Or maybe he started as nickle back and got demoted, or started at dime and got promoted?

    He dressed all 17, started 4. So doesn't appear to have had a serious injury

    https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/st...final-results/
    Good data for 2021. If I reading your post right Pierre started 4 games? Which ones? Also who often was Pierre deployed in the nickel and dime? What about the games that we opened up in the nickel and dime? I consider the players on the 1st defense snap to be starters in the game.

    Thank in advance to any information you can provide.

    -JB
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Good data for 2021. If I reading your post right Pierre started 4 games? Which ones? Also who often was Pierre deployed in the nickel and dime? What about the games that we opened up in the nickel and dime? I consider the players on the 1st defense snap to be starters in the game.

    Thank in advance to any information you can provide.

    -JB
    Pierre started 4 games in 2021. 3 when Haden was out one when Sutton was out. Raiders, Broncos, Chargers, and Bengals were the opponents.

    When everyone was healthy, Haden and Sutton started on the outside.

    In nickel and dime, Pierre was a regular and came in and joined Haden outside and Sutton moved inside. Generally, those three were in those formations with more db help in dime

    Of Pierre’s starts the game that Sutton missed was the only game we started in the nickel to begin (Denver Broncos at Pittsburgh Steelers - October 10th, 2021)
    Haden, Pierre, and Maulett started that game.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 03-25-2023 at 06:50 PM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Pierre started 4 games in 2021. 3 when Haden was out one when Sutton was out. Raiders, Broncos, Chargers, and Bengals were the opponents.

    When everyone was healthy, Haden and Sutton started on the outside.

    In nickel and dime, Pierre was a regular and came in and joined Haden outside and Sutton moved inside. Generally, those three were in those formations with more db help in dime

    Of Pierre’s starts the game that Sutton missed was the only game we started in the nickel to begin (Denver Broncos at Pittsburgh Steelers - October 10th, 2021)
    Haden, Pierre, and Maulett started that game.
    Thanks. This is good information. Maybe Feltdizz will read it comprehend it For some reason he has been a bit of a Richard on the topic. Richard being synonymous with the word {*@k
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Thanks. This is good information. Maybe Feltdizz will read it comprehend it For some reason he has been a bit of a Richard on the topic. Richard being synonymous with the word {*@k
    Remember this data is 2021, not 2020 which is when you said you saw him starting games.

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