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    Sure…. all the people who can’t stand Tomlin now “used to like him” until we had a playoff drought or until we lost to the Jags.

    when damn near EVERY.SINGLE.POST. has a dig at Tomlin even when its not even about Tomlin.. that’s an obsession
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Cool Shades, Sleepy Joe and Don the Con walk into a bar...
    Sleepy Joe is so 2020. I hear more people referring to him as Dementia Joe these days.
    Obviously the standard is the standard.

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    This Orlovsky guy is a dumba**. To even think the Steelers would consider OBJ, that's not the "Steeler" way. They wouldn't take him for 3M$ per and he wants 20M$. I would assume any Steeler fan would know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man of Steel View Post
    Sleepy Joe is so 2020. I hear more people referring to him as Dementia Joe these days.
    that’s because now he is WOKE
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    It's not as simple as I "hate Tomlin" although that's how you feel in an over-simplified manner. I actually "loved Tomlin" early on. I thought he was just what the doctor ordered for years. When you hear the Cowher stories about how people were not "allowed to talk to him" as he roamed the halls at 3 Rivers, you got the feeling that he got too big for his britches, as they say. By the time Cowher left, I was thinking "Oh, thank God." Listening to Tomlin speak, I thought he was near perfect. He really seemed to get it.

    But over the years, I have changed on MT. As his results show, he is flawed. And has bought into his own hype as happens being a football god in a town like Pgh. But, ever so slowly, fans are getting it. And they are no longer just content with him. He is no longer viewed as "great." The not having won a single playoff game in over 6 years feeds into the wake up.
    ^^^ this is the interaction I was hoping for ^^^

    I think my struggle is that it seems to me that he's the people person. The face. The motivator. But NOT the genius OC that teams have been winning with lately. He's capable of winning, but with the right coordinators (ESPECIALLY OC in today's NFL). And the right focus on FA/draft.

    I don't know if that makes him the right person or the wrong person to coach the team. But, he certainly has his strengths and weaknesses. IF they are going to win again, they need to spend more energy filling in where he isn't as strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    not to get political but it probably got him elected.

    people really expected Joe to come out with a diaper and a walker to his first debate and he came out and wiped the floor with Trump.

    Name calling doesn’t do anything but make the name caller look juvenile. I will admit some of the names can be funny but eventually it wears off.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but the braindead old fool couldn't mop the floor with anybody . Without Adderall he doesn't know who the hell he even is. This country is on the brink because of it . However,he did check a box for another positional first. First Chinese American President.That is all. Back to football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    It's not as simple as I "hate Tomlin" although that's how you feel in an over-simplified manner. I actually "loved Tomlin" early on. I thought he was just what the doctor ordered for years. When you hear the Cowher stories about how people were not "allowed to talk to him" as he roamed the halls at 3 Rivers, you got the feeling that he got too big for his britches, as they say. By the time Cowher left, I was thinking "Oh, thank God." Listening to Tomlin speak, I thought he was near perfect. He really seemed to get it.

    But over the years, I have changed on MT. As his results show, he is flawed. And has bought into his own hype as happens being a football god in a town like Pgh. But, ever so slowly, fans are getting it. And they are no longer just content with him. He is no longer viewed as "great." The not having won a single playoff game in over 6 years feeds into the wake up.
    I think most folks are in a similar spot and it’s not much different than when we collectively tired on Cowher.

    But I do see a difference in that Tomlin still seems to have the competitive desire in him whereas we could all tell Cowher wasn’t all in.

    So what’s our next best move?

    Id say surround Tomlin with better coaches, help him build better teams in the draft and FA, and invest more in football and analytics to compete with others.

    I think we’re trying to help him going with Khan and Andy to try and build a better team. I think Kenny is the kid to re-energize everything.

    I wish we would have done a little more to improve coaching. I’m ok with our DC at this point. Not sure about Canada, but I think Kenny transcends him this year and makes him a non factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    I think most folks are in a similar spot and it’s not much different than when we collectively tired on Cowher.

    But I do see a difference in that Tomlin still seems to have the competitive desire in him whereas we could all tell Cowher wasn’t all in.

    So what’s our next best move?

    Id say surround Tomlin with better coaches, help him build better teams in the draft and FA, and invest more in football and analytics to compete with others.

    I think we’re trying to help him going with Khan and Andy to try and build a better team. I think Kenny is the kid to re-energize everything.

    I wish we would have done a little more to improve coaching. I’m ok with our DC at this point. Not sure about Canada, but I think Kenny transcends him this year and makes him a non factor.
    I also think Cowher finally got that trophy and had enough . Having not returned to the ranks to this day speaks volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    I wish we would have done a little more to improve coaching. I’m ok with our DC at this point. Not sure about Canada, but I think Kenny transcends him this year and makes him a non factor.
    This is exactly what I believe, flip.
    And that mindset is aided by the "oh I'm sorry, my headset must be broken, I can't hear you, lemme call my own play and throw a strike against a division rival for the 1st down"
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    1.20 - Tailiese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St
    2.51 - Zach Frazier, C, WVU
    3.84 - Luke Mccaffery, WR, Rice
    3.98 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
    4.117 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU
    6.178 - Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
    6.195 - Dillon Johnson, RB, Washington


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    Quote Originally Posted by "BuzzNuter" View Post
    This Orlovsky guy is a dumba**. To even think the Steelers would consider OBJ, that's not the "Steeler" way. They wouldn't take him for 3M$ per and he wants 20M$. I would assume any Steeler fan would know this.
    If he paid the Steelers $3M they might take him...

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