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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35216

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Matt Corrall was throwing balls in buckets like a bawse in OTA’s!!!

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    • Steelerphile
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2008
      • 1198

      #32
      One that gets me is that Joel says that Sam Howell has already proven in one game that he is better than Pickett. I thought Howell must have had a humungous game. But in his one game Howell was 11-19 for 169 yards comp pct% 57.9 1 TD, 1 INT. 83.0 QBR and sacked three times. That's what he calls proof that Sam Howell has already surpassed Pickett. I think Pickett has had better games than that already not to mention two clutch game winning TDs.

      I'm bullish on Pickett and I think most people observing are. Of course Joel thinks he knows better, (He doesn't) Purdy is an anomaly but there are many QBs like Haener who have come to the NFL for years and never made a mark. I still wouldn't trade Pickett for Purdy or Mac Jones. I think he in the long run will be very good. I think he will be good next year but because he is not Joel's guy, he will continue to try to trash him.

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      • Northern_Blitz
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        • Dec 2008
        • 23883

        #33
        Originally posted by Steelerphile
        One that gets me is that Joel says that Sam Howell has already proven in one game that he is better than Pickett. I thought Howell must have had a humungous game. But in his one game Howell was 11-19 for 169 yards comp pct% 57.9 1 TD, 1 INT. 83.0 QBR and sacked three times. That's what he calls proof that Sam Howell has already surpassed Pickett. I think Pickett has had better games than that already not to mention two clutch game winning TDs.

        I'm bullish on Pickett and I think most people observing are. Of course Joel thinks he knows better, (He doesn't) Purdy is an anomaly but there are many QBs like Haener who have come to the NFL for years and never made a mark. I still wouldn't trade Pickett for Purdy or Mac Jones. I think he in the long run will be very good. I think he will be good next year but because he is not Joel's guy, he will continue to try to trash him.
        If Pickett had that one game, he'd be calling to draft a QB in the first. Because that's worse than KP has been and he's calling for us to replace him.

        I think Joel likes the draft. And it's fun to dream about getting shiny new toys.

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        • Blitzer
          Pro Bowler
          • Nov 2022
          • 1072

          #34
          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
          If Pickett had that one game, he'd be calling to draft a QB in the first. Because that's worse than KP has been and he's calling for us to replace him.

          I think Joel likes the draft. And it's fun to dream about getting shiny new toys.
          How can you draft a QB in round 1 in to back drafts when you are going to draft a RB in almost back to back drafts in round 1?

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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            • May 2008
            • 10069

            #35
            Originally posted by Blitzer
            How can you draft a QB in round 1 in to back drafts when you are going to draft a RB in almost back to back drafts in round 1?
            By trading back up into the first.
            http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
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              • Jan 2021
              • 7547

              #36
              Originally posted by Steelerphile
              One that gets me is that Joel says that Sam Howell has already proven in one game that he is better than Pickett. I thought Howell must have had a humungous game. But in his one game Howell was 11-19 for 169 yards comp pct% 57.9 1 TD, 1 INT. 83.0 QBR and sacked three times. That's what he calls proof that Sam Howell has already surpassed Pickett. I think Pickett has had better games than that already not to mention two clutch game winning TDs.

              I'm bullish on Pickett and I think most people observing are. Of course Joel thinks he knows better, (He doesn't) Purdy is an anomaly but there are many QBs like Haener who have come to the NFL for years and never made a mark. I still wouldn't trade Pickett for Purdy or Mac Jones. I think he in the long run will be very good. I think he will be good next year but because he is not Joel's guy, he will continue to try to trash him.
              Yeah we shall see if your bullish stance on Pickett is proven correct. In the meantime Howell who only started on game vs. a playoff team looked better than Pickett did despite playing in 12 games, to Howell's 1 game. It's early though.

              If Pickett plays well, I'll be happy.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • Steelerphile
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2008
                • 1198

                #37
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                Yeah we shall see if your bullish stance on Pickett is proven correct. In the meantime Howell who only started on game vs. a playoff team looked better than Pickett did despite playing in 12 games, to Howell's 1 game. It's early though.

                If Pickett plays well, I'll be happy.
                With 169 yards and 1 td and 1 int, you are actually talking about how much better Howell looked? That is sheerly a product of your own personal biases and spin to portray that game as better than I guess "any game" Pickett played? I didn't see the game live but I looked at parts of it on replay and IMO Howell did not look better than Pickett. I don't think he looked bad and he showed some promise, but Pickett has played better games and you still trashed him.

                You can praise Howell for 169 yards and 1 TD, because you have positioned yourself against Pickett. Pickett would have to throw for 300 yards and 4 TDS to get similar praise from you. He did it against a "playoff" team too. It was a meaningless game in the 17th week against Dallas and they played like it. Prescott threw for 128 yards and Dallas turned the ball over and it was just a sloppy game.

                You won't be happy if Pickett plays well. He has played well at times this season and you were never happy. He showed constant progress and won two important, not meaningless games, with clutch TDS and you were not happy. You will spin his performance negatively in the future also.
                Last edited by Steelerphile; 02-25-2023, 08:38 PM.

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27131

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Yeah we shall see if your bullish stance on Pickett is proven correct. In the meantime Howell who only started on game vs. a playoff team looked better than Pickett did despite playing in 12 games, to Howell's 1 game. It's early though.

                  If Pickett plays well, I'll be happy.
                  I’m pretty sure didn’t even watch that game. Found a video with every run and pass in that game. It was damn near an early Kenny Pickett outing. If Kenny threw an INT off his back foot on the end zone you would’ve used it as proof he isn’t the answer. I think Sam Howell has a chance to be their starter this season.

                  Last edited by feltdizz; 02-26-2023, 09:18 AM.
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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
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                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7547

                    #39
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I’m pretty sure didn’t even watch that game.
                    With all the availably of the NFL on TV, the replays of the games shown, and the internet showing of the game you can.

                    Look man, we drafted Jones and Rudolph in round 4 & 3 with Ben staring didn't we? I am for adding a QB in the draft and not spring another first round pick on him this year, as the Steeler did with a younger Ben, who was at least 2x as grid as the rookie Pickett . You mock what you do not understand!
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
                      • 27131

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      With all the availably of the NFL on TV, the replays of the games shown, and the internet showing of the game you can.

                      Look man, we drafted Jones and Rudolph in round 4 & 3 with Ben staring didn't we? I am for adding a QB in the draft and not spring another first round pick on him this year, as the Steeler did with a younger Ben, who was at least 2x as grid as the rookie Pickett . You mock what you do not understand!
                      Ben was drafted in 2004. Landry Jones was drafted in 20013.

                      Eventually we will draft a QB in the 4th but not this year.

                      and if you watched Sam Howell in that game there is no way you would say he was better than Kenny based on that film.
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                      • WindyCitySteel
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                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15451

                        #41
                        You think Pickett has a weak arm, but like this guy? Dude, some of those throws were lollipops.

                        Only draft prospect I saw in that video was Jalen Cropper (#5).

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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
                          Legend
                          • Jan 2021
                          • 7547

                          #42
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Ben was drafted in 2004. Landry Jones was drafted in 20013.

                          Eventually we will draft a QB in the 4th but not this year.

                          and if you watched Sam Howell in that game there is no way you would say he was better than Kenny based on that film.
                          Ben was a great player and still in his prime when the Steelers selected Jones and still had some good year left when we drafted Rudolph. Wake up! We picked a QB under those circumstances. Pickett did not play like Ben,

                          Howell had a bette college season is 2019. Far better than Kenny Pickett. In fact he has a good freshman year too in 2018. Pickett is a one year wonder in college. Yeah he had a better 2021, but North Carolina lost a lot of talent that year at RB and WR.

                          Yes, Howell IMO looked better than Pickett did in his lone game starting in the NFL vs a playoff team. He is a good deep passer with fine touch. He is about three years younger too , so in theory there is more upside there to tap.
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 23883

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                            With all the availably of the NFL on TV, the replays of the games shown, and the internet showing of the game you can.

                            Look man, we drafted Jones and Rudolph in round 4 & 3 with Ben staring didn't we? I am for adding a QB in the draft and not spring another first round pick on him this year, as the Steeler did with a younger Ben, who was at least 2x as grid as the rookie Pickett . You mock what you do not understand!
                            Those were both terrible draft pick imo.

                            And we don't have late picks to waste this year.

                            Too many needs, not enough picks.

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                            • Blitzer
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Nov 2022
                              • 1072

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                              Ben was a great player and still in his prime when the Steelers selected Jones and still had some good year left when we drafted Rudolph. Wake up! We picked a QB under those circumstances. Pickett did not play like Ben,

                              Howell had a bette college season is 2019. Far better than Kenny Pickett. In fact he has a good freshman year too in 2018. Pickett is a one year wonder in college. Yeah he had a better 2021, but North Carolina lost a lot of talent that year at RB and WR.

                              Yes, Howell IMO looked better than Pickett did in his lone game starting in the NFL vs a playoff team. He is a good deep passer with fine touch. He is about three years younger too , so in theory there is more upside there to tap.
                              Man you dont give up. going back to 2018 to try and prove Howell is a better pro than Pickett? now that is having an agenda

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27131

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                                Ben was a great player and still in his prime when the Steelers selected Jones and still had some good year left when we drafted Rudolph. Wake up! We picked a QB under those circumstances. Pickett did not play like Ben,

                                Howell had a bette college season is 2019. Far better than Kenny Pickett. In fact he has a good freshman year too in 2018. Pickett is a one year wonder in college. Yeah he had a better 2021, but North Carolina lost a lot of talent that year at RB and WR.

                                Yes, Howell IMO looked better than Pickett did in his lone game starting in the NFL vs a playoff team. He is a good deep passer with fine touch. He is about three years younger too , so in theory there is more upside there to tap.
                                It was 9 years into his career. A far cry from 1 year. Everything else you wrote is nonsense.
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