Trade down with our fist pick in round two, getting back a mid second 2nd, 3rd and 6t

[whisper]

We should be looking at trading up from 32 back into the 1st round too.

If we go up one spot, we get access to the 5th year option.

That’s a big potential get to add 1 more year on a premium player at a discount rate around the time KP could still be relatively inexpensive.

Well, then again we could draft a Bush, a player who we don't even want to pay on his 5th year option. Yea never know. "Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

[WindyCitySteel]

Id be open to that trade..
Im not sold on the "No special player" idea though. Every team in the league passed on San Fran's Franchise QB 7 times..

Lol, Purdy is not their franchise QB.

[Captain Lemming]

We should be looking at trading up from 32 back into the 1st round too.

If we go up one spot, we get access to the 5th year option.

That’s a big potential get to add 1 more year on a premium player at a discount rate around the time KP could still be relatively inexpensive.

Wow, that is a cool take. Interesting.

[NorthCoast]

Najee Harris was the 24th pick...errrrrrrrr, wait a minute, better example. TJ Watt was the 30th pick of his draft. He's a little bit "special." Cam was 31st in his draft. Pretty special too. Hood was 32nd and was absolute garbage, but still, TJ and Cam were special.

Add Heath, DeCastro, Holmes, Faneca,... some studly picks in the mid-20s, early 30s.

[Ernie]

Lol, Purdy is not their franchise QB.

Yea.. we will see

[Mr.wizard]

If there will be no special players there why would anyone trade up?

Checkmate!!!

[whisper]

Id be open to that trade..
Im not sold on the "No special player" idea though. Every team in the league passed on San Fran's Franchise QB 7 times..

I've already brought two very "special" recent players we have drafted very near that spot: TJ and Cam, both taken near the end of the 1st. If they think there is a player around that level of special, they dare not sit at that spot and take them. Le'veon Bell was taken with the 48th pick in the 2013 draft; he was special. Santonio Holmes was taken with the 25th pick, special. Heath Miller taken with the 30th pick, special. Alan Faneca taking with the 26th pick, HOF means special.

There have been a plethora of special players taken near the end of the 1st round. If one is sitting there, you don't give him away. Heyward, Watt, Bell, Holmes, Faneca, Heath Miller - no sir. You don't trade them away if you have one of those guys in your scope. The Bush, Edmunds, Kendall Simmons, Mendenhalls, Hoods, Artie Burns of the world? Trade away.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

It looked like the way the Steelers worked previously, when their pick came, if there was a guy they really wanted, they ran up and took him. They were risk averse to him getting away. Even if he was projected to still be available later, they would not risk trading back and potentially losing him.

The only new voice in the mix now is Weidl. the only one missing will be Colbert. How will this affect the dynamic?

Will Weidl help identify more targets? If, for example, pick 17 comes and you have 4 guys pretty even on the board, you can entertain moving down up to 4 spots and still guarantee a guy you target.

Will he help change the types of attributes desired? We have talked about high character being a big characteristic the team looks for. Can Weidl convince the rest that "a little bit of nasty" might be needed as well, especially for big guys.

Does he have a better eye for talent than Colbert, and can he convince the others of his views? I'd hope so since they must have discussed football during the interview process. I am happy that Colbert is no longer running the show. I'm also happy that the new guy comes from a team that has turned itself around building in the trenches and then opening up: Hurts much more responsibility and team made a big move to get an elite playmaker.

[Shawn]

It all depends if there is a special player there with our pick or not.

I agree with this. It highly depends on who is sitting there. If Paris falls to us then you snatch him up. If someone special doesn't falls to us trading back is something I would agree with.

[NorthCoast]

It looked like the way the Steelers worked previously, when their pick came, if there was a guy they really wanted, they ran up and took him. They were risk averse to him getting away. Even if he was projected to still be available later, they would not risk trading back and potentially losing him.

The only new voice in the mix now is Weidl. the only one missing will be Colbert. How will this affect the dynamic?

Will Weidl help identify more targets? If, for example, pick 17 comes and you have 4 guys pretty even on the board, you can entertain moving down up to 4 spots and still guarantee a guy you target.

Will he help change the types of attributes desired? We have talked about high character being a big characteristic the team looks for. Can Weidl convince the rest that "a little bit of nasty" might be needed as well, especially for big guys.

Does he have a better eye for talent than Colbert, and can he convince the others of his views? I'd hope so since they must have discussed football during the interview process. I am happy that Colbert is no longer running the show. I'm also happy that the new guy comes from a team that has turned itself around building in the trenches and then opening up: Hurts much more responsibility and team made a big move to get an elite playmaker.

Bottomline, why hire a guy if you're not going to value his opinions? Khan wanted new blood in the room and he went out and got it.
Weidl is also a proponent of analytics, something Colbert didn't buy into. I think this could pay dividends in the later rounds where evaluations are tougher.

[flippy]

Bottomline, why hire a guy if you're not going to value his opinions? Khan wanted new blood in the room and he went out and got it.
Weidl is also a proponent of analytics, something Colbert didn't buy into. I think this could pay dividends in the later rounds where evaluations are tougher.

They really need to get the next version of chatgpt and train it on all the nfl / college / football data they can find and then replace the GM and coaches with AI.

Perfect decisions aren’t that far away and the team that figures it out first will win.

They can also ask it to write a new playbook for the players on the roster and to come up with game plans based on all the historic trends.

I think old guys like Tomlin, Colbert, and even most of us hold on to our gut instincts is cause we’re so close to becoming irrelevant.

[NorthCoast]

They really need to get the next version of chatgpt and train it on all the nfl / college / football data they can find and then replace the GM and coaches with AI.

Perfect decisions aren’t that far away and the team that figures it out first will win.

They can also ask it to write a new playbook for the players on the roster and to come up with game plans based on all the historic trends.

I think old guys like Tomlin, Colbert, and even most of us hold on to our gut instincts is cause we’re so close to becoming irrelevant.

There's no real intelligence behind chatgpt or analytics. It takes a human to validate what is put out.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

If there will be no special players there why would anyone trade up?

Not special players, but good red chip players. We need more picks, which is a reason why I like a trade down option if such an offer can be made where we get what I perposed.

[NorthCoast]

Not special players, but good red chip players. We need more picks, which is a reason why I like a trade down option if such an offer can be made where we get what I perposed.

The Steelers need starters at a few positions. They have a better chance of getting those higher in the draft. OL, DL, ILB, CB in no particular order.

[WindyCitySteel]

ChatGPT gets it:

write an offensive game plan for the 2022 pittsburgh steelers

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