The difference between Purdy and Pickett

[NorthCoast]

I don't know who charts those passes, because PFF has Mitch and Picket at 17 combined attempts of 20+ yards down the middle

Must be PFF's 'context'. Deep middle = middle 1/3, >=20 yds.

[feltdizz]

This is why we have to take a "wait and see" approach. Pickett HAS TO have the opportunity of second year growth and a second year in the same offense. I totally get what others are saying about the offense because under Ben, this offense looked just as bad until Ben went off script and went no huddle (playground) .

Tomlin truthers need to retract your claws for now; give Pickett/Canada one more opportunity. IF....this offense looks exactly the same as this year, then that will be one year with Ben and two with Pickett where the offense looked awful and then there will be solid grounds to go after Canada and whoever (if it's Tomlin to) is running this high school offense.

My Tomlin Truthers...stand down but stay ready. LOL

You are directing your energy at the wrong group. I know why but why would you tell the Tomlin “believers” to relax? They are the main one’s saying Canada and Kenny need another year.

Guess what dude?

YOU are the Tomlin truther

[crushedspirit]

Most outlets including nfl.com use 20+ air yards as a deep pass definition and they use next gen stats. TruMedia also reports it as 20+ from what I remember, as does PFF and many others.

[crushedspirit]

In 275 plays Purdy has an EPA/play of 0.226 and a CPOE of 0.5

In 497 plays Pickett has an EPA/play of 0.028 and a CPOE of 0.7

Those are the Efficiencies of both QBs so far. Even in Kenny's improved weeks from 10 to 18 his numbers were 0.128 and -1.8. One has plainly been more efficient than the other, and the reasons why is for others to discuss.

[NorthCoast]

Most outlets including nfl.com use 20+ air yards as a deep pass definition and they use next gen stats. TruMedia also reports it as 20+ from what I remember, as does PFF and many others.

As long as you are ranking QBs using the same definition it doesn't matter that much. PIT was in the middle of the pack.

[crushedspirit]

As long as you are ranking QBs using the same definition it doesn't matter that much. PIT was in the middle of the pack.

They did try deep shots all year so yes I agree

[Steel Maniac]

In 275 plays Purdy has an EPA/play of 0.226 and a CPOE of 0.5

In 497 plays Pickett has an EPA/play of 0.028 and a CPOE of 0.7

Those are the Efficiencies of both QBs so far. Even in Kenny's improved weeks from 10 to 18 his numbers were 0.128 and -1.8. One has plainly been more efficient than the other, and the reasons why is for others to discuss.

If someone takes the stance that Pickett is better, but Purdy has superior numbers....the only thing left IS...that Purdy has superior coaching & players around him. There is no other conclusion to come to.

[The Man of Steel]

In 275 plays Purdy has an EPA/play of 0.226 and a CPOE of 0.5

In 497 plays Pickett has an EPA/play of 0.028 and a CPOE of 0.7

Those are the Efficiencies of both QBs so far. Even in Kenny's improved weeks from 10 to 18 his numbers were 0.128 and -1.8. One has plainly been more efficient than the other, and the reasons why is for others to discuss.

I liked the NFL a lot more before all the stat and draft nerds hijacked it.

[crushedspirit]

I liked the NFL a lot more before all the stat and draft nerds hijacked it.

Watching games can give a similar conclusion to numbers in a proper context. Some efficiency numbers are needed to understand what the eye misses sometimes.

[WindyCitySteel]

In 275 plays Purdy has an EPA/play of 0.226 and a CPOE of 0.5

In 497 plays Pickett has an EPA/play of 0.028 and a CPOE of 0.7

Those are the Efficiencies of both QBs so far. Even in Kenny's improved weeks from 10 to 18 his numbers were 0.128 and -1.8. One has plainly been more efficient than the other, and the reasons why is for others to discuss.

How is EPA calculated? Is it like ANY/A and passer rating, which are really stats reflecting passing game as a whole (scheme, OL, WR, QB)?