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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    #46
    Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
    Think about the positive reasons why the Steelers would choose to bring Mitch back instead of thinking about the negatives of bringing Mitch back? Can you do this?
    Yea, sure. If they bring Mitch back:

    1.) He can hold more "practices/parties" where teammates get so wasted that they get run over trolloping on busy highways at 5 AM, with a .25 alcohol blood content, on ketamine and its metabolite norketamine. No, that's not really positive.

    2.) They can pay $8 million making him the 2nd highest paid backup in the league without an upside. No, that's not really a good thing either.

    3.) They can overpay a backup who doesn't have an upside and is pretty much done developing, as opposed to filling the spot with a player who could develop into a starter, at a 3rd/6th of the cost.

    OK, a real positive, they would have a backup who knows the "system" and team. Is that really something that tips the scales to keeping Mitch? Oh, Art doesn't have to worry about "moving" someone. There's that, which Art seems to overly covet.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7549

      #47
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      more info like what type of liquor did he drink?

      how many doors did he knock on?
      I don't know! Let the facts come out. He is in college. I seen of people knocking loudly on doors before. Doesn't mean he has failed a drug test , or committed a crime which are major red flags for the NFL. This is a small off the field issue and I think his first one he has. Are you rooting against him or something? There is a chance that he is just like these sulky and overpaid QB's. Let it play out.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27131

        #48
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        I don't know! Let the facts come out. He is in college. I seen of people knocking loudly on doors before. Doesn't mean he has failed a drug test , or committed a crime which are major red flags for the NFL. This is a small off the field issue and I think his first one he has. Are you rooting against him or something? There is a chance that he is just like these sulky and overpaid QB's. Let it play out.
        public intoxication is a crime.

        Not rooting against him, just reporting the news. At 25 I think its a bad look for a QB like Bennett.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Chucktownsteeler
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6684

          #49
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          and this is the QB Joel wants us to draft?
          He also missed the team's celebratory meeting the day after the Natty. Word was he wasted and hung over.

          Plus, he appeared drunk on GMA. Johnny Manziel 2.0.

          He may have a problem.
          Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #50
            Originally posted by whisper
            Art has already spoke on the subject: he is idiotically bringing back Mitch and his absorbent $8 million salary. All because Art isn't comfortable with change. That's what we are left with. No change in HC, no change in OC and no change in backup QB, regardless of how prudent each change would be. Art would rather sip his scotch than make any changes.
            Let me tell you about Art Jr. .....

            Mitch has guranteed money still on the books; if we cut him, he's still getting paid. So Art isn't going to cut him solely because he's owed money. That's how Arty rolls. Doesn't matter if it's for the betterment of the team..he's looking at that money!!!

            Art's antiquated ways are the # 1 thing holding us back; similar to the way Halas held back the Bears from the 60's to the mid 80's (I believe old man Halas died in 82) .

            1. Holding on to non-playoff game winning head coach
            2. Not using free agency in a serious manner in modern day football
            3. Bottom basement shopping for O-linemen
            4. Smallest scouting staff in football

            These things come from the top. So,...as a Steeler fan, all we can do is do what Bears fans did from the 60's to mid 80's; hang in there and wait for something drastic to change in ownership.

            That's where we are at. So there's no need to get all upset cause if Art is still owning the team, most of the things I listed above are not changing.

            Just sit back and enjoy the excuse making from the TTTers; I do. I read them like their the comics in the newspaper. So amusing. They've been making constant excuses for over a decade now and they get madder at us for noting the failures of our team. They shoot the messenger around here; and mods will ban the messengers if the TTTers can bait you into calling them names after they call you names.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27131

              #51
              “Don’t go back to 2005 to 2008 when talking about the Steelers.. that was an eternity ago” - Steel Maniac

              ”Remember the 60’s through the 80’s..” “Remember Don Shula?” - Steel Maniac
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27131

                #52
                Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                He also missed the team's celebratory meeting the day after the Natty. Word was he wasted and hung over.

                Plus, he appeared drunk on GMA. Johnny Manziel 2.0.

                He may have a problem.
                Damn.. dude parties hard. He looks like one of those guys that will probably spend
                the rest of his life in Athens getting free booze.

                What is crazy is UGA just had a player and a student recruiter killed in a crash the night of the parade.

                Its time for Bennett to move if he is serious about getting drafted.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • SteelerOfDeVille
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 9065

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                  Dobbs at #2 and an UDFA.
                  This.
                  I think Dobbs would come back because he'd understand that he's now #2 in the rotation. And he would likely cost a lot less than Mitch's $8m salary.
                  I wouldn't go UDFA, tho - I'd draft one on day 3 - ya might get a Purdy

                  (I'm thinking the kid from TCU)
                  2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                  • SteelerOfDeVille
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 9065

                    #54
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    “Name 1.. okay, now name another one.. and another one!”

                    I’ve learned that when people on the internet demand you do their homework they don’t really want the answer. They will always move the goal post because they lack integrity.

                    When this dude couldn’t admit he was wrong about Pierre on the outside I knew he was a phony. He’s just here to spam the board.
                    I honestly don't think he's here to spam the board - I think he doesn't quite know the game (or the team) as well others do.
                    I could be wrong, but I will admit that I'm more likely to engage with a fan who simply doesn't know, because I don't want our fans going out there looking bad in discussions.
                    2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
                      Legend
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7549

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                      He also missed the team's celebratory meeting the day after the Natty. Word was he wasted and hung over.

                      Plus, he appeared drunk on GMA. Johnny Manziel 2.0.

                      He may have a problem.
                      I am not wanting him as a mid round pick as of right now.

                      I think his odds of being a Steeler however just went up as the culture Tomlin has created provides a home for prima donnas. For some reason we find a home for players like him in the draft.
                      Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 01-31-2023, 07:59 AM.
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • NJ-STEELER
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        Let me tell you about Art Jr. .....

                        Mitch has guranteed money still on the books; if we cut him, he's still getting paid. So Art isn't going to cut him solely because he's owed money. That's how Arty rolls. Doesn't matter if it's for the betterment of the team..he's looking at that money!!!

                        Art's antiquated ways are the # 1 thing holding us back; similar to the way Halas held back the Bears from the 60's to the mid 80's (I believe old man Halas died in 82) .

                        1. Holding on to non-playoff game winning head coach
                        2. Not using free agency in a serious manner in modern day football
                        3. Bottom basement shopping for O-linemen
                        4. Smallest scouting staff in football

                        These things come from the top. So,...as a Steeler fan, all we can do is do what Bears fans did from the 60's to mid 80's; hang in there and wait for something drastic to change in ownership.

                        That's where we are at. So there's no need to get all upset cause if Art is still owning the team, most of the things I listed above are not changing.

                        Just sit back and enjoy the excuse making from the TTTers; I do. I read them like they’re e doesnthe comics in the newspaper. So amusing. They've been making constant excuses for over a decade now and they get madder at us for noting the failures of our team. They shoot the messenger around here; and mods will ban the messengers if the TTTers can bait you into calling them names after they call you names.

                        no he doesn’t. His signing bonus is already paid.
                        For salary cap purposes it’s broken down per year. But art isn’t dishing out more money this year for that.

                        he had incentive bonuses based on amount of snaps played. I don’t believe he was even close to them.

                        only the signing bonus (divided by 2) would go on the dead cap ($2.6)

                        so 2.6 cap hit if he's not on the team
                        10.6 cap hit if he is on the team ($8m salary for 2023)

                        i agree with 1-4
                        Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 01-31-2023, 07:40 AM.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27131

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          I am not wanting him as a mid round pick as of right now.

                          I think his odds of being a Steeler however just went up as the culture Tomlin has created provides a home for prima donnas. For some reason we find a home for players like him in the draft.
                          yup, Bennett is now on our board with that arrest
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • WindyCitySteel
                            Legend
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 15451

                            #58
                            Dizz has convinced me that Kenny was such a bad prospect that offensive genius Mike Tomlin had to design such a dumbed down system that a 3rd grader could operate it. Word is that his silverware in the cafeteria was tipped with corks, too.

                            I'm trading up into the top 3 to get a new QB that the Steelers don't have to protect from himself.

                            Thanks, dizz!

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                            • Chucktownsteeler
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 6684

                              #59
                              Bennet (if not in jail by that time) will end up playing in Canada.
                              Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

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                              • Steel Maniac
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 19472

                                #60
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                no he doesn’t. His signing bonus is already paid.
                                For salary cap purposes it’s broken down per year. But art isn’t dishing out more money this year for that.

                                he had incentive bonuses based on amount of snaps played. I don’t believe he was even close to them.

                                only the signing bonus (divided by 2) would go on the dead cap ($2.6)

                                so 2.6 cap hit if he's not on the team
                                10.6 cap hit if he is on the team ($8m salary for 2023)

                                i agree with 1-4
                                The signing Bonus is what I'm talking about. That's the guaranteed money. It's spread out over two years but its money..on the books! If he cut Mitch today, Mitch isn't giving back any portion of that signing bonus thus, that would be a hit on our books for this year ..money that Art would be shelling out and getting nothing for.

                                And I don't see how you can disagree with # 3...how was Colbert constructing the O-line the last 3 years? By what methods? He wasn't using high draft picks like when we got DeCastro or Pouncey.
                                Last edited by Steel Maniac; 01-31-2023, 12:40 PM.

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