Do we really need to spend a high draft pick on receiver?

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  • NJ-STEELER
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    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #16
    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
    How fast is Addison? I don't watch NCAA, but heard recently that he's not expected to time all that well.

    If he's the WR equivalent of Najee (good all around, but won't get explosive plays in the NFL because he isn't NFL fast), then I don't think that's what we need.

    But I understand why people from Pittsburgh and Kenny fans want him. Sounds like they were a great connection in college.

    That’s the big question.

    From sone highlights. No one is catching him.
    but he’s also not separating a lot from the pack.

    once the combine gets here and we see how fast these guys run , that should help determine where they go in the draft

    Another concern I have is drafting a 6’0 175 lbs guy with the 17 overall selection.
    its a big boy league out there

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    • Captain Lemming
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      • Jun 2008
      • 15979

      #17
      Originally posted by Terrapin
      Since Tomlin is still HC and Canada OC, they'd be crazy to waste any picks on a WR. Why would they? So the WR can get 2 targets a game like Pickens?
      Why bother watching since we are doomed to failure?
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 15979

        #18
        Originally posted by Terrapin
        A playmaker for what? To stand there? Occasionally run go routes? They already admitted they don't know how to use Austin. Seriously, in the history of the league, have you ever head coaches say they don't know how to use a 4th rd draft pick? Beyond embarrassing
        I have never seen this HEAD COACH say that.
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        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

        TCFCLTC-
        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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        • Chucktownsteeler
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          • May 2008
          • 6791

          #19
          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
          How fast is Addison? I don't watch NCAA, but heard recently that he's not expected to time all that well.

          If he's the WR equivalent of Najee (good all around, but won't get explosive plays in the NFL because he isn't NFL fast), then I don't think that's what we need.

          But I understand why people from Pittsburgh and Kenny fans want him. Sounds like they were a great connection in college.
          KP8 says he should time in the 4.28 to 4.30 range in the 40.
          Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

          I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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          • whisper
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            • Mar 2020
            • 9423

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            If healthy, I think Austin will be a huge plus to the offense. I have been a fan since day 1 because i watched him throughout college...but if healthy.

            If Jordan Addison is sitting at #17, I would consider him very hard. Just look at the impact reuniting Burrow and Chase had. Johnson may not be a coaching headache, but he is still dynamic AND UNRELIABLE! We do need to improve the WR grouping. It isn't deep and once you get to the third guy, it is very unproven and very much journeyman-like
            With the needs we have, we shouldn't even consider a WR before the 3rd round, probably later. We are dying for a LT and LG. And we desperately need another stud on the DL, AND we desperately need a #1 CB, and that's IF Sutton stays. Now you tell me how a WR need trumps those spots and I haven't even brought up the need for ILB or S.

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            • whisper
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              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #21
              Originally posted by Terrapin
              A playmaker for what? To stand there? Occasionally run go routes? They already admitted they don't know how to use Austin. Seriously, in the history of the league, have you ever head coaches say they don't know how to use a 4th rd draft pick? Beyond embarrassing
              The TFW club often misses the obvious, they just do. Not only is our HC on record for saying he "doesn't understand" how to use HIS 4th round pick, but so did our OC. THEY, in all their wisdom, drafted the guy, and yet, don't know how to use him. The TFW club informed us that Austin "completes the roster" for Canada's system. That's what the yinzers were told and what they parroted back to us.

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #22
                Originally posted by whisper
                With the needs we have, we shouldn't even consider a WR before the 3rd round, probably later. We are dying for a LT and LG. And we desperately need another stud on the DL, AND we desperately need a #1 CB, and that's IF Sutton stays. Now you tell me how a WR need trumps those spots and I haven't even brought up the need for ILB or S.
                Your right. But you got to remember one thing:

                This is an organization that passed on the best center in the NFL (Humpries) to put all their eggs in Green (a bust).

                So I wouldn't put it past them to take a WR in the first round.

                But.........I'm hoping that our new GM and his crew draft much more sensibly then Colbert in Colbert's last couple of years.

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                • Northern_Blitz
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 24100

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                  KP8 says he should time in the 4.28 to 4.30 range in the 40.
                  Thanks Chuckstown!

                  Wow...if that's true, we might not even get the chance to draft him.

                  Teams like cheap WRs. Teams also like speed.

                  Wonder why I heard he wasn't fast. That's very fast.

                  Maybe I'm misremembering.

                  If he is that fast...and apparently he's good in the slot? Seems like we need a guy who can take short passes and turn them into explosive plays.

                  DJ was good at this basically every year but this year. So hopefully he gets that back too.

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                  • TheRealTazz864
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 2163

                    #24
                    Originally posted by whisper
                    With the needs we have, we shouldn't even consider a WR before the 3rd round, probably later. We are dying for a LT and LG. And we desperately need another stud on the DL, AND we desperately need a #1 CB, and that's IF Sutton stays. Now you tell me how a WR need trumps those spots and I haven't even brought up the need for ILB or S.
                    Your "member of the team" delusion is getting very tired... Fortunately, it's easy to re-iterate that there is no "we," plus I'm tireless.... Whatever is your opinion on the Steelers "needs," the Steelers will remain core to their brand and draft the best available player, regardless of their position... I think the Steelers will draft a guard with Chicago's pick... One needs to keep in mind that teams draft defensively (ie... take players off the board so that other teams can't draft them...) then use them to move up later (this is an oversimplification, drafting's hard, which is why I never presume to do it, nor try to offer mock drafts...)

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                    • TheRealTazz864
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Jun 2022
                      • 2163

                      #25
                      Originally posted by whisper
                      The TFW club often misses the obvious, they just do. Not only is our HC on record for saying he "doesn't understand" how to use HIS 4th round pick, but so did our OC. THEY, in all their wisdom, drafted the guy, and yet, don't know how to use him. The TFW club informed us that Austin "completes the roster" for Canada's system. That's what the yinzers were told and what they parroted back to us.
                      Some chain-smokers still fail to understand that the "doesn't understand" how to use HIS 4th round pick excuse is the 'it's not you, it's me...' answer of the NFL....
                      I still don't understand why you use "yinzer" as a pejorative... it is not... it is a moniker 'devoutly to be wished...'

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27276

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TheRealTazz864
                        Your "member of the team" delusion is getting very tired... Fortunately, it's easy to re-iterate that there is no "we," plus I'm tireless.... Whatever is your opinion on the Steelers "needs," the Steelers will remain core to their brand and draft the best available player, regardless of their position... I think the Steelers will draft a guard with Chicago's pick... One needs to keep in mind that teams draft defensively (ie... take players off the board so that other teams can't draft them...) then use them to move up later (this is an oversimplification, drafting's hard, which is why I never presume to do it, nor try to offer mock drafts...)
                        you are annoying as hell.

                        either accept that WE.. say WE, or stfu.

                        yinzer can also be used a variety of ways.

                        back to ignore you go.
                        Steelers 27
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                        • Chucktownsteeler
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                          • May 2008
                          • 6791

                          #27
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          you are annoying as hell.

                          either accept that WE.. say WE, or stfu.

                          yinzer can also be used a variety of ways.

                          back to ignore you go.
                          I never took him off my ignore list. He is last night's dinner.
                          Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                          I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                            • May 2008
                            • 10162

                            #28
                            First round WR makes one receiver better.

                            First round LT makes every receiver and the QB better
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27276

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                              I never took him off my ignore list. He is last night's dinner.
                              Every now and then I peak at his post to see and 9 times out of 10 I hate myself for it.

                              No one to blame but myself.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Northern_Blitz
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                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24100

                                #30
                                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                                First round WR makes one receiver better.

                                First round LT makes every receiver and the QB better
                                I think this is a great way of thinking about it.

                                I think skill players should be toward the bottom of the rebuilding check list for this reason.

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