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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    great players make great plays in big moments

    I know some of y'all won't want to hear it but

    Bradshaw > Ben

    My opinion.
    Don’t be so hard on Ben; he had …. never mind.
    From the 2010-2022 season,(A 13 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Steeler fans still loving on Tomlin now, are the same as Dolphin fans in the 90's who were still loving on Shula for what he did in the 70's

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    Bradshaw had an incredible touch on long balls. bens to Holmes to win the game was pretty good also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    great players make great plays in big moments

    I know some of y'all won't want to hear it but

    Bradshaw > Ben

    My opinion.
    I think it's hard to compare much before and after cap and UFA.

    Both were great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    great players make great plays in big moments

    I know some of y'all won't want to hear it but

    Bradshaw > Ben

    My opinion.
    A QB can make the same throws in week 5 and its a cool highlight for a week.

    Make them in a SB and you become a legend.

    This is the only real criticism one can make of Ben when comparing the 2. Outside of the last drive vs AZ he doesn’t have any real highlights in his SB wins unfortunately. Maybe the pass to Hines after the scramble but Bradshaw’s SB sizzle reel is white hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    I think it's hard to compare much before and after cap and UFA.

    Both were great.
    I think its simply comparing plays made in SB’s. Doesn’t really have anything to do with FA.

    While Bradshaw played with the same guys this is more about splash plays. Ben has tons in the regular season and the playoffs in his career, but he just didn’t have many great plays in his SB’s.

    if Ben gets a little more on that pass to Wallace in the SB vs GB I could see that being the best pass ever if we won that game.
    Last edited by feltdizz; 01-17-2023 at 09:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    I think its simply comparing plays made in SB’s. Doesn’t really have anything to do with FA.

    While Bradshaw played with the same guys this is more about splash plays. Ben has tons in the regular season and the playoffs in his career, but he just didn’t have many great plays in his SB’s.

    if Ben gets a little more on that pass to Wallace in the SB vs GB I could see that being the best pass ever if we won that game.
    What is funny is that Ben was a WAY BETTER regular season QB regardless of "eras".

    Just compared to his peers if you take out SBs, Terry was extremely talented but he made LOTS of bone head throws and got away with it because of the defense. As Terry matured he had a couple of real good regular seasons, but overall I don't think he was "great" in the regular season.

    I don't think he sniffs HOF on another team.

    Then in SBs he was literally, "THE BOMB."

    A WAY BETTER SB QB THAN BEN.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 01-17-2023 at 10:34 AM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    I think it's hard to compare much before and after cap and UFA.
    Both were great.
    Also important is that Bradshaw played about half of his career prior to the two major rule changes of 1978. Without the Mel Blount rule in place for example Ben, Brady, Brees, etc don’t put up 5,000 yard passing seasons.
    Obviously the standard is the standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Don’t be so hard on Ben; he had …. never mind.
    Ben had TWO, maybe 3 HOF teammates at any one team.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man of Steel View Post
    Also important is that Bradshaw played about half of his career prior to the two major rule changes of 1978. Without the Mel Blount rule in place for example Ben, Brady, Brees, etc don’t put up 5,000 yard passing seasons.
    Ignore eras. ESPECIALLY before the rule change, Terry was not that good compared to "his peers" duringthe regular season.

    Nobody benefited more from the change than Terry.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Ben had TWO, maybe 3 HOF teammates at any one team.
    I count 4, Webster, Swann, Stallworth and Harris plus Terry himself.


    1.17 - Broderick Jones, OT, GA (Darnell Wright, OT, Tenn)
    2.32 - Joey Porter Jr, CB, PSU (Jack Campbell, ILB, Iowa)
    2.49 - Keannu Benton, DT, Wisconsin (Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan)
    3.93 - Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (Kyu Blu Kelly, CB, Stanford)
    4.132 - Nick Herbig, LB, Wisconsin
    7.241 - Cory Trice Jr., CB, Purdue (Christian Izien, S, Rutgers)
    7.251 - Spencer Anderson, G, Maryland (Tim DeMorat, QB, Fordham)

    And, there's your 2023 Steeler draft class


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