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Thread: A Theory about why we struggle to score TDs til the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Yes, but what if we are seeing Pickett celling? IMO he is the reason for the lack of points not Pickens, or Muth. He is the reason we don't throw for many touchdowns and do not pass for many yards . Don't give me the yeah but he a rookie line as an excuse. There is something to it but Brock Purdy delivered yesterday on a day when his defense did not. He has shown me more stuff than Pickett.
    I think Purdy is in the running for rookie of the year.

    Yes Pickett is winning games thanks to his defense, being on the plus side of the turnovers and the other teams ineptness at QB. But throwing so many short passes and not coming close to hitting big plays....he is showing me that he is a game manager type who can WIN if the DEFENSE is playing well and AND the offense isn't turning the ball over. We are running the ball a bit better lately meaning Pickett has more 3rd and shorts.
    Shanahan deserves a lot of credit that's allowing Purdy to thrive under the circumstances. Purdy is the definition of a game manager. A lot of his throws are to CMC out of the backfield and to Kittle and WRs in space.
    KP is being handcuffed by Canada and Tomlin. However, he was still able to make some elite throws yesterday. He's beyond a game manager.
    https://www.steelers.com/video/next-...pletions-x1905

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    This is true. But the good news is it is not about ability but about approach which is an easy fix.
    I agree. A lot of hope ahead.
    From the 2011-2022 season,(A 12 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Steeler fans still loving on Tomlin now, are the same as Dolphin fans in the 90's who were still loving on Shula for what he did in the 70's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    The extra game helps too
    And in fact is the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLROC View Post
    Shanahan deserves a lot of credit that's allowing Purdy to thrive under the circumstances. Purdy is the definition of a game manager. A lot of his throws are to CMC out of the backfield and to Kittle and WRs in space.
    KP is being handcuffed by Canada and Tomlin. However, he was still able to make some elite throws yesterday. He's beyond a game manager.
    https://www.steelers.com/video/next-...pletions-x1905
    I have no doubt that if Purdy and KP were flipped, KP would be able to get a couple of TD's a game just like Purdy. No doubt. Which tells us what we must do at the OC position on this team.
    From the 2011-2022 season,(A 12 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Steeler fans still loving on Tomlin now, are the same as Dolphin fans in the 90's who were still loving on Shula for what he did in the 70's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLROC View Post
    Shanahan deserves a lot of credit that's allowing Purdy to thrive under the circumstances. Purdy is the definition of a game manager. A lot of his throws are to CMC out of the backfield and to Kittle and WRs in space.
    KP is being handcuffed by Canada and Tomlin. However, he was still able to make some elite throws yesterday. He's beyond a game manager.
    https://www.steelers.com/video/next-...pletions-x1905
    Flip teams and Pickett would be crushing it in SF. That's an elite offensive coaching staff, we've got perhaps the worst in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    I was just being shown Kennys relatively poor red zone numbers. Someone else mentioned his modest percentage.

    However, Kenny ended 8 of 9 and a score last week. 5 of 6 and a score this week.

    I don't think our early lack of scoring has ANYTHING to do with Kennys skill. I don't think his modest game percentage last night are about accuracy.

    Looking at red zone numbers are bad. Kenny has a few legit red zone misses.

    But how often is Kenny throwing it away? Just think about how often he throws out the back of the end zone and we are kicking field goals?

    Then with time running out Kenny is hitting people with laser accuracy?

    Kenny is being told to avoid risky passes at all cost people.

    Then when we have no choice, Kenny is hitting on passes he won't attempt earlier in the game. He shows his incredible accuracy and his percentage goes through the roof.

    Think about those game winning drives. Several of those passes don't happen earlier in the game. Those same drives would stall.

    I don't hate it, Kenny is young and it is winning.

    But at some point the training wheels gotta come off.
    What is the theory captian? Mine is he is poor until the ends of the game when the defenses goes into prevent mode then he delivers.
    The Steelers had a great draft in 2023. However better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting. Nor has hired anyone good to his coaching staff. Think about that. But Khan and Weidl appear to have better management on the salary cap and focused on the right free agents and draft needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Flip teams and Pickett would be crushing it in SF. That's an elite offensive coaching staff, we've got perhaps the worst in the league.
    Why didn't Lance crush it in his rookie season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    Why didn't Lance crush it in his rookie season?
    He did pretty well for only 71 passes, but that's a pretty small sample size. That system will maximize your talents, ours is a lead straight jacket.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.c...L/LancTr00.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    He did pretty well for only 71 passes, but that's a pretty small sample size. That system will maximize your talents, ours is a lead straight jacket.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.c...L/LancTr00.htm
    Pretty well is different from killing it. Use the reference and tell me how many rookies "killed it" as rookie QB's.

    It's not about "systems". The pros told you this. They tell you this every week. Why didn't you listen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    Pretty well is different from killing it. Use the reference and tell me how many rookies "killed it" as rookie QB's.

    It's not about "systems". The pros told you this. They tell you this every week. Why didn't you listen?
    What are you babbling about? Of course the system and scheme matters, to not think so is sheer idiocy. Stop defending the offensive dullards in charge of this team, it smacks of rank partisanship.

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