NFL Refs are so bad or the fix is in.

[feltdizz]

Notice how the people who think it's fixed always lose the bets.

If you actually thought it was fixed why would you bet.

And if you understood how it was fixed before hand, why would you bet the losing side?

If it was fixed, lots more people would win IMO. Because it wouldn't be too hard to figure out how the bets always fell.

I don’t gamble.. and I think it comes down to where the money is leaning for a few games a week. I don’t think every game is fixed but there are moments that make you wonder.

I primarily watch NFL and NBA and when the ref was caught cheating it was hilarious hearing the NBA deny it was a league wide problem after Dauhany admitted he wasn’t the only one.

There a refs that have reputations for crappy calls and fans know when they see certain names its going to be messy. I believe some of those refs have marching orders.

[whisper]

Notice how the people who think it's fixed always lose the bets.

If you actually thought it was fixed why would you bet.

And if you understood how it was fixed before hand, why would you bet the losing side?

If it was fixed, lots more people would win IMO. Because it wouldn't be too hard to figure out how the bets always fell.

No, that's the thing: They keep it so you can never guess a pattern to which games are fixed and which way they are fixed. Ever. Some point spreads do make you say "the fix is in" and sometimes you'd be right on those, but just as often the game ends up the way the line is. You can NEVER "pin it down" in terms of figuring which games are fixed and which way.

Of course not every game is fixed, but plenty are. And you just KNOW those refs are picking up packages out of an airport locker full of cash. They are way to easy of targets. Say they make $250k a year. How easy would it be to get them onboard with a measly $250k for one game? Easy. That's pennies to the mob.

[feltdizz]

No, that's the thing: They keep it so you can never guess a pattern to which games are fixed and which way they are fixed. Ever. Some point spreads do make you say "the fix is in" and sometimes you'd be right on those, but just as often the game ends up the way the line is. You can NEVER "pin it down" in terms of figuring which games are fixed and which way.

Of course not every game is fixed, but plenty are. And you just KNOW those refs are picking up packages out of an airport locker full of cash. They are way to easy of targets. Say they make $250k a year. How easy would it be to get them onboard with a measly $250k for one game? Easy. That's pennies to the mob.

There are a lot of Patriot games that make you go hmmm? Some of those calls were ridiculous. Even the SB they lost to Philly. All of a sudden calls the Pats usually get went to Philly.

Jesse James TD overturned but then the NFL said they were changing the way they view a catch in the playoffs.

Wonder where the money was on that SB?

[Djfan]

Notice how the people who think it's fixed always lose the bets.

If you actually thought it was fixed why would you bet.

And if you understood how it was fixed before hand, why would you bet the losing side?

If it was fixed, lots more people would win IMO. Because it wouldn't be too hard to figure out how the bets always fell.

I never bet, and am reasonably convinced that it's fixed.

[Northern_Blitz]

I don’t gamble.. and I think it comes down to where the money is leaning for a few games a week. I don’t think every game is fixed but there are moments that make you wonder.

I primarily watch NFL and NBA and when the ref was caught cheating it was hilarious hearing the NBA deny it was a league wide problem after Dauhany admitted he wasn’t the only one.

There a refs that have reputations for crappy calls and fans know when they see certain names its going to be messy. I believe some of those refs have marching orders.

My understanding is that when the first iPods came out, they had a true random song selector (or at least as truly random as computers could get at the time).

But too many people complained because they'd get songs from the same album in a row, or the same song twice, or whatever.

Because they thought that meant that there was a pattern.

So I think they had to change the programing to exclude things from the "randomness" of the next song selection. Because people felt like true randomness was really a pattern.

I think that's what the "the game is fixed" feeling is.

Although, there is a lot of money at stake...so I can see that there would be incentive to pull some strings sometimes. But I think people who could do that would have to have tremendous self-control to make sure they didn't do it too often. Because too often (with too many people involved) would make it very hard to hide IMO.

[Djfan]

There are a lot of Patriot games that make you go hmmm? Some of those calls were ridiculous. Even the SB they lost to Philly. All of a sudden calls the Pats usually get went to Philly.

Jesse James TD overturned but then the NFL said they were changing the way they view a catch in the playoffs.

Wonder where the money was on that SB?

It was the remarkable amount of pro-cheater's calls and non-calls, that made me give it up. I was at the Jesse James game, in the stands, not far from where he scored. It did it for me. Too obvious. Why would I spend money, time, etc., on a game already decided?

The nfl is in the dumps, IMO.

[TheRealTazz864]

No, that's the thing: They keep it so you can never guess a pattern to which games are fixed and which way they are fixed. Ever. Some point spreads do make you say "the fix is in" and sometimes you'd be right on those, but just as often the game ends up the way the line is. You can NEVER "pin it down" in terms of figuring which games are fixed and which way.

Of course not every game is fixed, but plenty are. And you just KNOW those refs are picking up packages out of an airport locker full of cash. They are way to easy of targets. Say they make $250k a year. How easy would it be to get them onboard with a measly $250k for one game? Easy. That's pennies to the mob.

People who are vocally challenged can't pin it down, usually because they got the tail wagging the dog... It's easy to figure out if you can see where the $$ comes from... If there's a big swing in the odds because the Shady Pines Retirement Home (nod to Betty White...) decided to put the profits from "Reno Night" on one team or another, that's different from Bugsy from Atlantic City droppin' some coin on a team...

[NJ-STEELER]

if you watched the chiefs - tampa SB, you'll see it wasnt a patriot bias more then it was a brady bias. that 1st half was typical brady/pats favoritism. get up by a few scores in the 1st half, then even out the calls in the 2nd half when there was no chance at a comeback.

as far as the james catch. according to the rules at the time, that wasn't a catch.
although i do think they failed to show a clear view of james not having his hand under the ball.
that was supposed to be the criteria for overturning the play call but it was never clear.

the pats/brady getting that call was not a surprise

[T.Ferguson]

I'm starting to think part of the parity push in the NFL is to ensure Vegas wins even more. Like I sure as hell would not be betting on any games in the NFL at this point, way too risky.

I also would not be surprised if the refs are playing in part in that in certain games. Or it could be just incompetence lol I don't know! But it's not good either way for the sport.