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    How is this year's FA crop doing?

    Every year the Steelers spend March and April papering over every perceived hole on the roster with a middling free agent, declaring themselves "need free" entering the draft, where they basically do the same thing - take one guy at every position where the FA was signed. Obviously, guys taken day 3 are more likely to be career special teams and backups even if they made the team, but fans and media alike celebrate "filling a hole!" with a sixth round guard or DT.

    Back to the free agents - Let's check PFF grades to see how this year's cheap wallpaper is holding up as the holidays approach.

    CB Levi Wallace - 52.8
    LB Myles Jack - 56.4
    DT Larry Ogunjobi - 65.6
    C Mason Cole - 66.5
    G James Daniels - 72.3

    Daniels and Cole around career average, slight above average to decent, Larry O the same. D starters below the line.

    Zero star, impact, transformational players because We're The Pittsburgh Steelers And This Is How We Do Things.

    Let's hope Kahn/Weidl usher in a new era of free agency, one that values quality over quantity, because the Steelers have been spinning their tires for years with this approach.
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 11-22-2022 at 09:50 AM.

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    I thought I read where once we got rid of Ben his huge contract, the Steelers would have a bunch of money to get stud FAs.
    Update:
    In the last decade:
    25% of the league has won a super bowl. The steelers are not one of them.
    19 teams have as many or more playoff wins as the steelers.
    25 teams have won at least one playoff game, none have a worse playoff win percentage than the steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I thought I read where once we got rid of Ben his huge contract, the Steelers would have a bunch of money to get stud FAs.
    They do have the money, but they prefer quantity over quality. Imagine if they had just promoted Loudermilk, Robinson, Pierre, Hassenauer, and used all their replacements' money to sign one impact guy. Would they be worse than 3-7?
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 11-22-2022 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I thought I read where once we got rid of Ben his huge contract, the Steelers would have a bunch of money to get stud FAs.
    dint forget the offense will look much better cause he’s too immobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    dint forget the offense will look much better cause he’s too immobile
    Oh yeah..they banged hard on Ben when he was on the way out. Gave all those excuses.
    From the 2010-2021 season, (A 12year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 5 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90s held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2021 ) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Every year the Steelers spend March and April papering over every perceived hole on the roster with a middling free agent, declaring themselves "need free" entering the draft, where they basically do the same thing - take one guy at every position where the FA was signed. Obviously, guys taken day 3 are more likely to be career special teams and backups even if they made the team, but fans and media alike celebrate "filling a hole!" with a sixth round guard or DT.

    Back to the free agents - Let's check PFF grades to see how this year's cheap wallpaper is holding up as the holidays approach.

    CB Levi Wallace - 52.8
    LB Myles Jack - 56.4
    DT Larry Ogunjobi - 65.6
    C Mason Cole - 66.5
    G James Daniels - 72.3

    Daniels and Cole around career average, slight above average to decent, Larry O the same. D starters below the line.

    Zero star, impact, transformational players because We're The Pittsburgh Steelers And This Is How We Do Things.

    Let's hope Kahn/Weidl usher in a new era of free agency, one that values quality over quantity, because the Steelers have been spinning their tires for years with this approach.
    From Jack and Larry O, I expected better. The others are right about where I figured they would be.

    This just means that the offseason will be as we've expected... O-line, d-line, LB, DB will all be possibilities in the first 2-3 rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    dint forget the offense will look much better cause hes too immobile
    Yup, plus Ben was changing all the play calls
    Update:
    In the last decade:
    25% of the league has won a super bowl. The steelers are not one of them.
    19 teams have as many or more playoff wins as the steelers.
    25 teams have won at least one playoff game, none have a worse playoff win percentage than the steelers.

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    We haven't signed an impact FA since who, James Farrior? Although I guess Joe Haden was pretty good. Can't wait to see what kind of Jaguar scrub we'll target next season.

    I have no idea why they value quantity over quality. 1 or 2 impact FA's, and 1 or 2 impact rookies would turn things around in a hurry

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Every year the Steelers spend March and April papering over every perceived hole on the roster with a middling free agent, declaring themselves "need free" entering the draft, where they basically do the same thing - take one guy at every position where the FA was signed. Obviously, guys taken day 3 are more likely to be career special teams and backups even if they made the team, but fans and media alike celebrate "filling a hole!" with a sixth round guard or DT.

    Back to the free agents - Let's check PFF grades to see how this year's cheap wallpaper is holding up as the holidays approach.

    CB Levi Wallace - 52.8
    LB Myles Jack - 56.4
    DT Larry Ogunjobi - 65.6
    C Mason Cole - 66.5
    G James Daniels - 72.3

    Daniels and Cole around career average, slight above average to decent, Larry O the same. D starters below the line.

    Zero star, impact, transformational players because We're The Pittsburgh Steelers And This Is How We Do Things.

    Let's hope Kahn/Weidl usher in a new era of free agency, one that values quality over quantity, because the Steelers have been spinning their tires for years with this approach.
    Even though he did not come from outside, I would include Akhiello Witherspoon. 2 years, $8M. I don't know his PFF but he has missed plenty of time and not looked good when he has played. His contract is set up so that if he plays one year he will receive exactly $4M and if cut the savings is $4M. I would be happy with releasing him and using that money to re-sign Sutton. Then bring in a high pick or FA at CB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    dint forget the offense will look much better cause he’s too immobile
    Even the old man (Rooney) parroted the blame for an ineffective offense under Canada: we need a mobile QB. Everything was Ben's fault for returning when they really didn't expect/want him to. And the yinzers kept repeating this excuse through out the offseason, as if there was even a modicum of it being true.

    Then reality hit: we got 2 pretty mobile QBs, and the offense just got worse.

    As far as the FAs go, we once again got what we paid for: ham and eggers for the most part, although I think Jack has played better than most do. Levi hasn't played much due to injury and Larry O has been pretty solid.

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