NC, re: the Jimmy G comp I'd love to see Kenny in that offense rather than this high school offense. Jimmy's being maximized, Kenny seems to be playing underwater with a straight-jacket on.
Also, rookie vs. 9-year vet.
NC, re: the Jimmy G comp I'd love to see Kenny in that offense rather than this high school offense. Jimmy's being maximized, Kenny seems to be playing underwater with a straight-jacket on.
Also, rookie vs. 9-year vet.
If I could truly predict with extreme accuracy NFL QB success and failure...If I could set ceilings for players with transcendent insights...I certainly wouldn't be posting here. I would be collecting big paychecks with the Steelers. I find "scouting" fun and the debate even more entertaining. So, if any member here is getting upset with my opinions...take a step back and realize it's just one man's opinion. There is much love for Kenny among players and commentators. Many think he is the real deal. So, if you need to read posts or articles confirming your opinions there are plenty out there.
We actually agree on Stroud. I said this from the beginning to my dad. He like many of you doesn't always like my opinion. He started his career off rough. My dad blew it off citing lack of experience. It wasn't his performance as much as it was his body language and some of the defeated facial expressions. He didn't seem to have that IT. I could probably throw for 4000 yards with that kind of talent around me. Ok, who am I kidding most likely 5000 yards lol. I think he busts big time in the NFL. I do not think he has the mentality to make it at the next level.
Now prepare yourself because I'm about to give KP a compliment. I have said this before but some seem to forget the occasional nice thing I say about KP. While I do not believe he has an elite arm or athletic ability...I do believe he has a franchise QB swag and confidence. I said this very early. I like the way he carries himself. Above the neck is half the battle. If KP ever has the chance to be great it will be because he is uber confident and is willing to take some chances.
Thanks NC.
I wonder if anyone has done progressions of these kind of charts for players. If there's some kind of expectation for changes from rookies onward.
Like, do the data ever move more than a standard deviation upward from their rookie seasons or something?
It might be interesting if this kind of tool could be used to project ceilings. And if they could, it might give teams a tool to decide whether to stick with a guy or cut bait. I'd imagine that these kinds of decisions are mostly "gut" decisions from coaches ATM.
I think it would also be interesting to see what the standard deviation on players looks like too. I'd imagine that 2 players could have the same average EPA on say 3rd down. But one guy gets infrequent bombs and the other guy routinely converts, but not big plays. In that case the "error bar" on the points would look different for two guys with the same average.
Nice to see that Kenny is about average as a rookie (and looks to be pretty good on 3rd down). Hopefully that means he'll become better than average as he develops.
Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 11-30-2022 at 10:56 AM.
The other side of the historical coin. Again, context showed that Ben was a much better rookie than Kenny is, but just to show you how raw, cherry picked stat lines can be deceiving:
https://twitter.com/NFLRookieWatxh/s...j3PmsPdl-zaONg
Really? You never "troll"? Dizz I have read your posts for years and I know you love getting under people's skin. So settle down. Second, where have I acted like it's an issue? It might be for them but it's certainly not for me. If members are getting upset with my opinions...for their own mental health and happiness they either need to block me or step away for a bit. Football is a game, a guys like guys argue and jab each other. I don't see it ever as an issue unless people are getting nasty about it. And I don't believe anyone here has stepped over the line when it comes to KP. I don't think anyone has made a comment about my mom so we good lol.
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