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Thread: Can we stop comparing Pickett to Mahomes or Ben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    I'm scanning the play-by-play now and 2nd and 9 or 10 is always a Najee run, if it's more than 10 they pass. Tomlin's play chart obviously scripts this stuff out, it's automatic.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/401437856
    I HATE these 2nd and long runs. It's basically giving up on the series.

    I like how you think things we have no way of knowing are "obvious". It's a great way to confirm your biases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    read that again.

    They were all offensive lineman when they played

    and I’m genuinely asking here.
    mare there any former wide receivers that made great coaches?
    it’s not really a position you need to put think anyone to be successful
    "I" started the point when calling Grimm a guy who "teaches fat men to block".

    You suggested Noll, BB, and Lombardi somehow were a counter to "my" point. Nothing to do with positions played.

    Grimms "coaching" experience was limited to teaching fat men to block.

    Your bringing up Noll and BB ACTUALLY shows a common trait with Tomlin.

    They all were successful coaching units WITHOUT 1st hand experience PLAYING those positions. All three played offense but coached defense.

    That shows an aptitude for teaching that goes beyond the limits of what you did as a player. It shows an understanding of the game and nuances of different positions.

    Thank you for reminding me that two of the most successful coaches in history were offensive players who coached defense... JUST LIKE TOMLIN.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-21-2022 at 11:20 AM.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Yes sir.

    Tomlin is great

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    at some point? Like this year or for his 5th year option?

    He has yet to play a division opponent but we have to make a hard decision?

    I agree on building a case but I'm curious on when that decision needs to be made.
    Realistically, latest is by the end of year three when you have to decide on the option.

    Of course, if you have the opportunity to draft a guy who you think is better before then you have to at least think about it. The other alternative (if Pickett isn't developing) is to take a bunch of shots on day 2 and hope you find a Wilson or Dak. You may need to do that once or twice anyway to keep the QB room full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    Yes sir.

    Tomlin is great

    lol
    NJ-STEELER... still lacking nuance.

    Either someone is worthy of near godlike devotion (Ben) or he is absolutely trash (Tomlin).

    Nothing in between.

    All I just suggested is that Tomlin had credentials worthy of his hire...something you said he does not have. Yet you defend the hire of coaches with lesser credentials.

    Try this:
    Look up my name and Tomlin as well as "great".

    Tell me how often I have posted both the words Tomlin and great without the word "not" or "never said" in the same post.

    I would suggest there is a great range between the two extremes you seem to think are the only possible options.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-21-2022 at 12:21 PM.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    NJ-STEELER... still lacking nuance.

    Either someone is worthy of near godlike devotion (Ben) or he is absolutely trash (Tomlin).

    Nothing in between.

    All I just suggested is that Tomlin had credentials worthy of his hire...something you said he does not have. Yet you defend the hire of coaches with lesser credentials.

    Try this:
    Look up my name and Tomlin as well as "great".

    Tell me how often I have posted both the words Tomlin and great without the word "not" or "never said" in the same post.

    I would suggest there is a great range between the two extremes you seem to think are the only possible options.
    and this is a main part of my argument with Saturday and the Colts.

    The same people who prop up all the great coaches with all this experience are now defending an interim coach with ZERO experience.

    things that make you go hmmmm???
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    NJ-STEELER... still lacking nuance.

    Either someone is worthy of near godlike devotion (Ben) or he is absolutely trash (Tomlin).

    Nothing in between.

    All I just suggested is that Tomlin had credentials worthy of his hire...something you said he does not have. Yet you defend the hire of coaches with lesser credentials.
    .
    who am i defending?

    the saturday hire?

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