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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Sadly, too many needs for one draft. So this is a two year project. Offense early in 2023. Defense early in 2024. Gonna have a couple of ho-hum seasons to get through.
    That’s what I’ve been saying NC but people get upset about that. Sometimes the truth isn’t what most want to hear. But it is what it is.
    From the 2010-2022 season,(A 13 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90ís held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70ís...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2023) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    What about the guy you loved, layne?
    Isn’t he ready to step in and be the stud you predicted?
    Lol
    Layne was his guy too. He said Layne was going to be Tomlin’s best cornerback drafted. Another wrong prediction as usual.
    From the 2010-2022 season,(A 13 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 6 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90ís held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70ís...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2023) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Layne was his guy too. He said Layne was going to be Tomlinís best cornerback drafted. Another wrong prediction as usual.
    I dare you to post a link where I predicted that.

    you can't, because I never did.

    stop your lying, which I realize is difficult to do for a pathological liar like you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Sadly, too many needs for one draft. So this is a two year project. Offense early in 2023. Defense early in 2024. Gonna have a couple of ho-hum seasons to get through.
    I approached last off-season saying this exact same thing, even made a list of needs and gave some options as to how to address. As true as it is though, there are a couple of reasons to be hopeful that it can be a quicker turnaround:

    1) Can upgrade through FA as well, and there is money to be found on this salary cap.
    2) You don't need to fill every need in order to become competitive. All teams, including champions, have flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Sadly, too many needs for one draft. So this is a two year project. Offense early in 2023. Defense early in 2024. Gonna have a couple of ho-hum seasons to get through.
    This is true. We need more picks! Suppose we trade say the 5th overall pick? We can we get for it? Another teams first, third, and next years first? IMO Khan, who I hope is very bright should so it.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 11-27-2022 at 08:39 AM.
    Better QB play is a huge need. Pickett's dump off game isn't getting many points or yards. Pickett is last in the NFL of plays over 20 yards. We need a new LT and LG. The run D needs at DT/NT and new ILB to stop the run. Better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    This is true. We need more picks! Suppose we trade say the 5th overall pick. We can we get for it? Another teams first, third, and next years first? IMO Khan, who I hope is very bright should so it.
    Obviously, bro Joel. Since 2022 became the official Steelers Death March Season I'm much less involved with Planet Steelers and Artie's Tsouris [having an actual real life is another reason, y'all .] Still, what they do isn't in my hands so "The Worse The Better" per 2023 Draft Picks.

    Hadn't realized QB Caleb Johnson has another USC season to go so maybe they'll actually draft for Steeler NEEDS and not to satisfy Coach C+'s Self Promotion skills....

    https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/heisman-watch-caleb-williams-max-duggan-shine-bright

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    This is true. We need more picks! Suppose we trade say the 5th overall pick? We can we get for it? Another teams first, third, and next years first? IMO Khan, who I hope is very bright should so it.
    Im great with that. I think, despite out struggles, pickett is our guy. The way its looking now, we will have 3 picks inside the top 40. Im fine with trading out of the 5th pick to acquire more picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawb the Revelator View Post
    Obviously, bro Joel. Since 2022 became the official Steelers Death March Season I'm much less involved with Planet Steelers and Artie's Tsouris [having an actual real life is another reason, y'all .] Still, what they do isn't in my hands so "The Worse The Better" per 2023 Draft Picks.

    Hadn't realized QB Caleb Johnson has another USC season to go so maybe they'll actually draft for Steeler NEEDS and not to satisfy Coach C+'s Self Promotion skills....

    https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/heisman-watch-caleb-williams-max-duggan-shine-bright

    I am the approaching the point ( when we officially out of the playoffs ) were we need a complete re-set, I'm talking coaching and many players who start. Pickett has the rest of the season to prove to me he is the answer. I wish the media would ask him questions such as why do you seldom throw the ball beyond the 1st down marker except when its 3rd down? Why don't they? His travel distance on completed passes it very short. And too many if his passes that are short are broken up...IE...I think he does not have a strong arm. Or even an average on by the standards of NFL starting QB's.

    Is it the coaching or the players? Or the truth, it's both.
    Better QB play is a huge need. Pickett's dump off game isn't getting many points or yards. Pickett is last in the NFL of plays over 20 yards. We need a new LT and LG. The run D needs at DT/NT and new ILB to stop the run. Better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Tomlin is 19-18-1 in last 38 games played and hasn't won a playoff game in six years and counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    This is true. We need more picks! Suppose we trade say the 5th overall pick? We can we get for it? Another teams first, third, and next years first? IMO Khan, who I hope is very bright should so it.
    Working it so we get an extra pick or two would be a breath of fresh air. It's early to discuss such things but if we had a top 10 pick , say 7, and a qb was on the board I could see us getting some serious offer to drop even only a few spots. I would have no problem picking 10th or 11th n now having three (3) 2nd rounders and perhaps a sweetener too.
    As correctly stated we have more needs then we'll be able to fill with just a single draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    Working it so we get an extra pick or two would be a breath of fresh air. It's early to discuss such things but if we had a top 10 pick , say 7, and a qb was on the board I could see us getting some serious offer to drop even only a few spots. I would have no problem picking 10th or 11th n now having three (3) 2nd rounders and perhaps a sweetener too.
    As correctly stated we have more needs then we'll be able to fill with just a single draft.
    But what if we drop to pick 10 and draft a Devin Bush? Or we get an extra 1 and draft another Edmunds.

    What do any picks matter if weíre gonna reach and make all the wrong picks anyway????

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