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    Players donít match scheme or scheme donít match players???

    We have a few few greyhound WRs in Claypool and Pickens. A deep ball QB with MR.

    But we are trying to play dink, dank, dunk with a QB that at times looks like a refugee from the Keystone Cops.

    Nothing changes until we decide on an identity.
    2023 Mock Draft

    1) Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern - Tenative
    2a) Henry To'o To'o, ILB, Alabama (Bears pick)
    2b) John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (Steelers pick)
    3) Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan
    4) Nick Hampton, Edge, App State
    5) No Pick
    6) No pick
    7a.) Jack Nelson, G, Wisconsin
    7b.) Tyler Hudson, WR,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucktownsteeler View Post
    We have a few few greyhound WRs in Claypool and Pickens. A deep ball QB with MR.

    But we are trying to play dink, dank, dunk with a QB that at times looks like a refugee from the Keystone Cops.

    Nothing changes until we decide on an identity.
    Well Kenny looked like he was born for this offense.
    Mitch does not match any offense. He is not a quality starter.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 09-18-2022 at 08:48 PM.




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    Gregg Rosenthal
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    The Steelers offense operates like they have 3 shifty slot receivers instead of 3 athletic freaks like Claypool, Diontae and Pickens

    Sep 19, 2022

    https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...ssioni%2Fpage2

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Gregg Rosenthal
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    The Steelers offense operates like they have 3 shifty slot receivers instead of 3 athletic freaks like Claypool, Diontae and Pickens

    Sep 19, 2022

    https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...ssioni%2Fpage2
    You know we can try a 2 te set, with 2 receivers and a back. It wont produce may big plays in the passing department but we don't hit on them anyway!

    As least it will help the running game and the short passing, and the pass blocking. Why not?
    The offense needs a RB capable of hitting big plays in the rushing and passing department, and two new starting OL. The run D needs at DT/NT and new ILB to stop the run. Better play calling / coaching is badly needed. Time to put them all on the shopping list for the next draft / offseason because they are not changing this year. That much I'm fairly confident of.

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    When has a Tomlin team ever played what works best for the players, and not just what is planned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djfan View Post
    When has a Tomlin team ever played what works best for the players, and not just what is planned?
    IMO, one of the reasons why he's only a good, and not a great, HC

    keeps trying to shove those square pegs into those round holes

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    i just posted similiar about the offense and our draft picks.

    you can add a big bell cow type RB in the first round. but a offensive line with it highest draft pick being a 3rd rounder

    seems like there's no plan. doesn't make much sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djfan View Post
    When has a Tomlin team ever played what works best for the players, and not just what is planned?
    Back when Arians was calling plays... who else took sprinter Mike Wallace and made him look all world? Not another coach in the league...
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    1. Paris Johnson Jr., OT, Ohio State
    2a. Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
    2b. John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota
    3. Jack Campbell, ILB, Iowa
    4. Keeanu Benton, NT, Wisconsin
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    Mannnn watching Josh Allen go beast mode lol

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    We read how the Steelers were working to install an outside zone blocking scheme in preseason. Came across this read and hope Canada knows what he's trying to do with this offense;

    Outside zone blocking is all about having quicker linemen that can beat defensive linemen to spots laterally and then generating creases from that initial stress. If they can do that at 6-5, 320 thatís great, but often the 6-2, 285 pound dude can also handle that job just fine and thereís more guys who match that description who can pull it off.

    True wide zone schemes are designed to have the running back aim for the offensive tackleís outside hip at the snap and then make a decision from there to maintain that track, to bounce the run wide if the offense hooks the edge, or to cut back against the grain.
    The wide zone cutback is typically where the real money is made on this play.

    The problem in the shotgun comes from asking a running back who starts the play behind the opposite guard of the offensive tackle heís aiming at, to build up speed to credibly threaten the edge within the normal timing of the play.

    Wide zone from the shotgun.
    The running back has to be awfully quick to make this work, which defeats one of the great benefits of the Shanahan wide zone system. The 49ers are simply the most recent team to reveal that
    when you get the wide zone system right, the back isnít terribly important. Any good athlete that you can train to follow his keys can find success on a stretched out, pass-conflicted defense.

    Often youíll find big, powerful running backs excel in wide zone because they get set on a trajectory to the edge that is terrifying to opponents and then can cut back and just run downhill on people.
    Not so with the shotgun though, those guys typically donít have the quicks to credibly threaten to bounce runs wide from this starting point.

    Thereís also the fact that the alignment of the back gives away where the play is going. There are teams that will run wide zone from the shotgun and have the quarterback turn and hand the ball to the running back for him to run to the same side he starts on. That helps avoid obvious tendencies but it still requires tremendous lateral quickness from the running back.

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