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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Solid financial pick, questionable football pick. We interveiwed lots of football guys. No comment on the " assistant GM " What will his job entail?
    Weidls background is personell so one would assume that part is his contribution.

    But to YOUR horror hiring a money guy as GM1 signals a strengthening of Tomlins voice.




    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Weidls background is personell so one would assume that part is his contribution.

    But to YOUR horror hiring a money guy as GM1 signals a strengthening of Tomlins voice.
    Weidls ( in my eyes) is the real GM. He is the talent evaluator of the two. So I too agree that Tomlin's voice has gotten stronger because the overall GM position has gotten weaker. Khan is and has been the numbers guy; So him doing the traditional GM things that most GM's have been doing is out the window.
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    From the 2010-2021 season, (A 12year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 5 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90s held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2021 ) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    I thought from the beginning that this was going to be a split job - Khan and a personnel guy. I'd say that the biggest move here is that they chose Weidl over Hunt.

    He may be called the Assistant GM, but I don't think that Weidl will be asking Khan's permission or opinion on who to draft. If he wants to sign a FA or make a trade, to question is more likely to be "can we afford to do this?" rather than "can I make this move?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    I thought from the beginning that this was going to be a split job - Khan and a personnel guy. I'd say that the biggest move here is that they chose Weidl over Hunt.

    He may be called the Assistant GM, but I don't think that Weidl will be asking Khan's permission or opinion on who to draft. If he wants to sign a FA or make a trade, to question is more likely to be "can we afford to do this?" rather than "can I make this move?".
    I wonder if they offered it to Hunt but maybe he wanted a bigger job?

    I think it would be interesting to go back and look at the transition to Colbert and see if it felt like Cowher had more input into draft picks or not. It certainly was billed at a power struggle between BC and TD. I wonder how much more power Cowher actually had afterwards. Did he say anything about that in his book?

    My guess is that we have a process and will continue to follow the process.

    But I think it makes sense that the HC who's been there for so long will get deferred to more often than he does now without Colbert as a counter balance. Under Colbert I felt like it was a collaborative process but the GM had the final say. I think that will still be true, but I think it might be easier for Tomlin to lobby a new guy for a player he wants than it would have been for Colbert if there was no true consensus.

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    So now we have....three GMs? Is this the Friends and Family Plan for general management?

    https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/sta...LXLoB74SDz6S4g

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    I wonder if they offered it to Hunt but maybe he wanted a bigger job?
    Probably...I"m sure he ask to be a traditional GM. That's what anyone in his position would ask for.
    From the 2010-2021 season, (A 12year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 5 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90s held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2021 ) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    For those wanting to pretend Tomlin has all the power now, what happened to the ‘Steelers way’ of all positions having equal say come draft day?
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    In the last decade:
    25% of the league has won a super bowl. The steelers are not one of them.
    18 teams have as many or more playoff wins as the steelers.
    25 teams have won at least one playoff game, none have a worse playoff win percentage than the steelers.

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    I wonder if Omar Kahn moving up will hinder our cap situations in the future? He was very good at this.
    2022 Mock Draft

    1) Jordan Davis, NT, Georgia
    2) Desmond Ridder- QB - Cinncinnati
    3) Alec Pierce - WR - Cinncinnati
    4) Sky Moore, WR, WVU
    6) Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
    7a) Quentin Lake, S, UCLA
    7b) Luke Fortner - IOL - Kentucky

    Undrafted - Issah Pola-Mao, Connor Heyward, Cole Kelley, QB, SE Louisiana


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    I will say this. To your concern, I read this as Tomlin gaining power.

    I've always been of the opinion (even seen indication of it) that Colbert had the final say in the draft.

    By choosing a guy who's background is in money crunching, not talent evaluation, Tomlins voice just got louder.

    If we hit home runs or strike out, I feel NOW Tomlin should get more credit and blame for roster construction.
    Expect more brothers and players from VA/MD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    For those wanting to pretend Tomlin has all the power now, what happened to the ‘Steelers way’ of all positions having equal say come draft day?
    The "Steeler way" is Rooney making the final call, but not necessarily taking accountability for it. It's been that way for decades. Anyone not seeing this isn't trying to even look. Shades wanted Willis. Who did we end up with? Cowher wanted Shawn Andrews, who did we end up with, Thank God.

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