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    Putting Picketts 38 fumbles in context.

    A lot of chatter about Picketts fumbles and this article does a great job breaking them down.

    People make it sound like it was 38 cases of tiny hands.

    2 were backward passes that the WR/RB failed to catch.

    5 were bad snaps… 5 were good snaps he didn’t secure. He only lost 2.

    then you had 6 that were failed handoff exchanges.

    there were 14!strip sacks, 7 while attempting a pass. He was definitely responsible for some and didn’t secure the ball high and tight while scrambling or on designated runs.


    https://steelersdepot.com/2022/05/co...kenny-pickett/
    Last edited by feltdizz; 05-16-2022 at 04:47 PM.
    Tomlinís coming back so what can you do?


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    Context matters. Ball security is fixable and coachable. Ridder fumbled more times per snap with his 10" mitts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Context matters. Ball security is fixable and coachable. Ridder fumbled more times per snap with his 10" mitts.
    I don’t think ANYONE who used that stat considered bad snaps, hand off exchanges and backwards passes.
    Tomlinís coming back so what can you do?


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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    Context matters. Ball security is fixable and coachable. Ridder fumbled more times per snap with his 10" mitts.
    I may be getting this wrong, but I thought I heard that Pickett's fumbles per game are actually better than several of the other QBs in the draft.

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    that's a lot of fumbles, no matter how you slice it

    good news is, as the OP said, this issue should be fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    that's a lot of fumbles, no matter how you slice it
    No, it DOES matter how you slice it. Some of those aren't on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    No, it DOES matter how you slice it. Some of those aren't on him.
    Just like some of the other QB fumbles weren't on them. Either way he coughed up the too often in a short go games and soft college schedule. See who he played last year. The NFL is big step up for him. I hope it's not an issue for him in the NFL. Mike Vick also had tiny hands. He fumbled quite a bit.
    This year will tell a lot about the direction the Steelers are going in. One good thing is we got what seems like a hot draft class in Pickens, Leal, and Austin. Possibly Robinson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Buchsbaum View Post
    Just like some of the other QB fumbles weren't on them. Either way he coughed up the too often in a short go games and soft college schedule. See who he played last year. The NFL is big step up for him. I hope it's not an issue for him in the NFL. Mike Vick also had tiny hands. He fumbled quite a bit.
    If you'd just read the article you'd see that "tiny hands" had nothing to do with the fumbles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    If you'd just read the article you'd see that "tiny hands" had nothing to do with the fumbles.
    He coughed up the football when hit, probably a player with 10" hands fumbles those plays less and fields the snaps better than a player with 8 3/4 inch hands. I've asked for plays where he did a pump fake and inquired about how he did on play action, things that require a stronger grip. Crickets there. They do not appear to be part of his game. Finally he held the ball the third longest in the FBS. Not good, he needs to speed things up. The record shows 38 fumbles, excuses aside that's a lot.

    Look-I want him to do well but this issue " ball security " is an issue and was an issue in college.
    This year will tell a lot about the direction the Steelers are going in. One good thing is we got what seems like a hot draft class in Pickens, Leal, and Austin. Possibly Robinson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
    If you'd just read the article you'd see that "tiny hands" had nothing to do with the fumbles.
    From another post I made earlier;

    Given the extensive discussion in Brian Billick's book The Q-Factor, we know that drafting a quarterback out of need can lead to red flags being ignored and, say, EJ Manuel becoming a franchise's first-round pick.
    Like fumbles, tiny hands, one year wonder.....

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