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Thread: Chiefs, Mahommes SB era done. Your salary cap advantage just ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Thanks NC.

    Interesting that it came down this year.

    My guess is because there weren't any good / accomplished QBs that were signing contracts this season (either in the top 3 or in numbers ~6-10).

    But maybe it's also a sign that teams are less inclined to sign big QB deals. Maybe teams are pushing to create a "middle class" for Qbs.

    It also looks were was an uncharacteristic number of big deals last season. And Stafford could have demanded much more then he did...I wonder if he regrets going team friendly now that they are rumored to be shopping him around.

    I'd imagine the methodology is (AAV) / (cap in year of signing)?
    2020 had 9 QBs sign contracts above 10% of the cap. That is the most in 5 years. It's seems the Mahomes deal got things started along the path. The only other big signing that might happen this year is LJ. But that is still only 5 QBs above 10% of the cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Umm.. Burrow and Herbert are going to get some serious money soon.

    I don’t think teams are less inclined, we just had a ton of old HOFers retire recently.
    Herbert will be an interesting test case.

    It's unlikely that they will have any significant team success while he was super-cheap. I think it's really unlikely for teams to get more successful when they pay the QB at the top of the market.

    Might be a good example of a guy to move on from? Not necessarily because of the player. But because the team squandered the opportunity with what looks like a good QB?

    But it will be hard because he looks like he can play the position (but is outclassed in a division that has the guy who is currently the best in the league).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Herbert will be an interesting test case.

    It's unlikely that they will have any significant team success while he was super-cheap. I think it's really unlikely for teams to get more successful when they pay the QB at the top of the market.

    Might be a good example of a guy to move on from? Not necessarily because of the player. But because the team squandered the opportunity with what looks like a good QB?

    But it will be hard because he looks like he can play the position (but is outclassed in a division that has the guy who is currently the best in the league).
    No way do they move on from Herbert. He’s just getting started. Herbert may be another Matt Stafford/Phillip Rivers.

    All the tools but needs a lot more than his arm to have team success.

    If they moved on they would get a ton of picks but another team would scoop him up like a baseball.

    I think the way players are moving around these days the mantra of winning on a rookie contract will fade. Its all about putting together the right combo of players. Rams just showed what can happen if you throw a bunch of money at players for a chance at a SB.

    Josh Allen is another case study. We watched him lose with like 15 seconds left and it wasn’t his fault. But will the Bills get over the hump him? Probably not.. but what do you do? Move on and risk another 10 years before finding a QB? Its not easy finding good QB’s in the draft.
    Last edited by feltdizz; 03-22-2023 at 09:52 AM.
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Herbert will be an interesting test case.

    It's unlikely that they will have any significant team success while he was super-cheap. I think it's really unlikely for teams to get more successful when they pay the QB at the top of the market.

    Might be a good example of a guy to move on from? Not necessarily because of the player. But because the team squandered the opportunity with what looks like a good QB?

    But it will be hard because he looks like he can play the position (but is outclassed in a division that has the guy who is currently the best in the league).
    A top-10 QB who wouldn't last a day on the open market. Can't let guys like that walk away unless you get an irresistible draft haul in return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crushedspirit View Post
    A top-10 QB who wouldn't last a day on the open market. Can't let guys like that walk away unless you get an irresistible draft haul in return.
    I’m sure the Saints would looooove to work something out with the Chargers.

    It worked so well for the Chargers the last time they did it.
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Herbert will be an interesting test case.

    It's unlikely that they will have any significant team success while he was super-cheap. I think it's really unlikely for teams to get more successful when they pay the QB at the top of the market.

    Might be a good example of a guy to move on from? Not necessarily because of the player. But because the team squandered the opportunity with what looks like a good QB?

    But it will be hard because he looks like he can play the position (but is outclassed in a division that has the guy who is currently the best in the league).
    Another case is Jordan Love. He's his 'rookie' season will be his 3rd since he was drafted. He's gonna have to ball out this season and next for GB to consider his 5th yr option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Another case is Jordan Love. He's his 'rookie' season will be his 3rd since he was drafted. He's gonna have to ball out this season and next for GB to consider his 5th yr option.
    which is probably why GB is moving on from AR. They need to know.. lol.

    GB has no one to blame but themselves but it worked out for them last time, might work out again.
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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