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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    "This issue looks beyond that of “just hitting the weight room”, a topic you will find many fans suggest will fix Green’s issues. But he is undersized, and can only get so strong. Longer defensive tackles will continue to get under his pad level and move him against his will.

    A prevalent idea is simply moving Green back out to his more natural guard spot, but his problems will persist the same at the spot, which is a position typically bigger than your center. In an ideal world Green is your middle three backup, and can step into any spot based on injury. I don't see him as a full-time starter in this league. Sure, he can develop, but as a player about to turn 23 he only has so long to improve his game."

    This is a major concern.
    Polamalu was a "major" concern as a rookie. We all know how that turned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    Polamalu was a "major" concern as a rookie. We all know how that turned out.
    Polamalu was a playmaker at his position in college. Green was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Polamalu was a playmaker at his position in college. Green was not.
    They play different positions. So not sure why that even matters?

    The comparison is this.
    Polamalu wasn't a play maker his first season with the Steelers. Many thought Polamalu was a bust. Dermonti Dawson didn't start at center as a rookie. We all know how his career turned out.

    Green is playing a relatively new position. Green isn't a finished product yet. Not sure why some people are quick to pass judgement on a rookie? Rookies typically struggle and make mistakes. We shall see how Green's career develops through the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Polamalu was a playmaker at his position in college. Green was not.
    which is why Troy was picked in the first
    round.

    Green needs time just like 85% of rookies.
    Tomlin’s coming back so what can you do?


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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    which is why Troy was picked in the first
    round.

    Green needs time just like 85% of rookies.
    If he was missing assignments I could agree that experience will improve his game. But the knock the writeup points out is functional strength. And he already is apparently abundantly 'weight room' strong but still be pushed back by DL. I understand why the Steelers targeted him; agility is off the charts, speed is above average for his position. But a center's No. 1 job has to be to move people (or at least stalemate them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    If he was missing assignments I could agree that experience will improve his game. But the knock the writeup points out is functional strength. And he already is apparently abundantly 'weight room' strong but still be pushed back by DL. I understand why the Steelers targeted him; agility is off the charts, speed is above average for his position. But a center's No. 1 job has to be to move people (or at least stalemate them).
    One major difference between a center and a guard is that a guard starts each play face to face with the player across from him. A center must first ensure that he puts the ball back in the QBs hands - something that Green obviously has weighing on him pretty heavily, before actually putting himself in position to block the man across from him. That is part of the process. It's like starting a 100M race with one guy having a 10M head start. Once he gains confidence and experience, we will then see if he can overcome the head start. It's part of the growing pains that come with starting rookies, and even more so with rookies learning new positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    One major difference between a center and a guard is that a guard starts each play face to face with the player across from him. A center must first ensure that he puts the ball back in the QBs hands - something that Green obviously has weighing on him pretty heavily, before actually putting himself in position to block the man across from him. That is part of the process. It's like starting a 100M race with one guy having a 10M head start. Once he gains confidence and experience, we will then see if he can overcome the head start. It's part of the growing pains that come with starting rookies, and even more so with rookies learning new positions.
    Well , we have little choice but to ride with him. It is what it is for this season thou.
    From the 2010-2020 season, (A 11 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Currently, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in 4 years.

    Dolphin fans in the 90’s held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70’s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2021 ) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    One major difference between a center and a guard is that a guard starts each play face to face with the player across from him. A center must first ensure that he puts the ball back in the QBs hands - something that Green obviously has weighing on him pretty heavily, before actually putting himself in position to block the man across from him. That is part of the process. It's like starting a 100M race with one guy having a 10M head start. Once he gains confidence and experience, we will then see if he can overcome the head start. It's part of the growing pains that come with starting rookies, and even more so with rookies learning new positions.
    good points.

    unsure why people didn't expect Green to have growing pains his rookie season.
    Steel Maniac when he's wrong: "My predictions are time based." lmao

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    They could have easily drafted a plug and play stud at C.

    Now, we get to watch another "project", but yes, the long term verdict is not known yet.

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    I'm not giving up on the kid, but he clearly is struggling. probably expected when you throw in a 3rd rounder to start from day 1.
    that doesn't happen too often. like moore this should have been a learning season behind a Vet starter

    he does seem strong enough in the weight room, so the staff will need to teach him how to transfer that out onto the field. from the naked eye, he needs better balance with that strength
    I remember wolf telling a old training camp story of leaving his car in neutral and getting out and moving the car himself to work on those type of things.

    those critiquing his size, what happen to the old adage on the lines of "low man wins"
    Dirt dawson was also 6'2

    it does seem like they tend to lock on a few guys in the draft instead of exploring other possibilities when confronted with them.
    seems to me if najee, muth, and green ( from this recent draft) were there at the time they selected in the 1st,2nd, and 3rd they were taking them regardless of who was on the board.
    i bet they expected creed to be gone by their 2nd round pick and didn't try to re route their plans
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