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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Bell had only one season with over 300 rush attempts, 329 in 2017 to lead the league.

    During that season we were 20th in rushing and 3rd in passing as a team.

    Bell ran a ton individually. But as a team we ran less that most teams. Our offense was DEFINITELY pass centric.

    They say we "run the wheels" of Bell not because WE ran alot. Fact is ONLY Bell did most all the running when we did run. At to that his 85 catches and we definitely ran the wheels off...but not just "running".

    in 2017, they ranked 15th in the league with 27.3 rushing att per game with a run ratio of 42.5%.
    the bills led the league in run ratio with 50.57%
    they were in the middle of the pack attempting to run the ball the last time bell played a season here

    last year they were tied for 4th in lowest rush attempts per game at 23. with a ratio of 36.2%

    that's a huge difference.
    get some talent back there and those ratios will be closer

    in the 2016 season Baltimore, notoriously known as a run team, had the lowest run to pass ratio in the league and the 3rd least rush attempts.
    their leading rushers that year were terrence west, kenneth dixon and justin forsett.

    are you beginning to see a big part of the picture here?


    https://fftoday.com/stats/16_run_pass_ratios.html
    Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 06-19-2021 at 12:14 AM.

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    2018, first year without bell

    steelers ranked 7th lowest rush attempts
    2019 - 11th lowest
    2020 - tied for 4th lowest (with tampa)




    with bell
    2014 - 18th
    2015 - 9th
    2016 -18th
    2017 - 15th
    Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 06-19-2021 at 03:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    I'd rather have Juju OR Claypool blocking than Ebron.
    Hahahaha..I sense your not the biggest Ebron fan.
    From the 2010-2020 season, (A 10 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    Dolphin fans in the 90’s held on to Don Shula for too long for what he did in the playoffs in the 70’s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for too long for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches.

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    Matt Canada feels great about the strides the Steelers revamped offensive line is making

    The Pittsburgh Steelers’ new offensive coordinator likes what he sees from his new offensive line.

    By Jeff.Hartman@BnGBlitz
    Jun 18, 2021

    The Pittsburgh Steelers’ offense is undergoing a major overhaul in every way imaginable. New offensive coordinator, new offensive line staff, new quarterbacks coach, new tight end coach and even almost an entirely new offensive line.

    Despite those changes, new coordinator Matt Canada, who spoke to the media for the first time this past week during mandatory minicamp, has seen great strides made from his offensive front. That includes his coaching staff as well.

    “I feel great about the strides our offensive line is making.” Canada said. “[Adrian] Klemm and Coach Morgan have done a great job with that unit. Obviously, we’ve got some change, there’s no doubt about that. When you talk about the guys with [Maurkice] Pouncey leaving, just the history he has had here and the tremendous player and leader, I’m obviously a huge Pouncey fan. We have to find and fill those roles.”

    Suggesting the holes the Steelers have to fill along the offensive line are just the one vacated by Maurkice Pouncey is putting it lightly. The Steelers will be without starters Alejandro Villanueva (left tackle), Matt Feiler (left guard), Pouncey (center) and moving their starting right tackle, Chukwuma Okorafor, to left tackle.

    Talk about an overhaul, but it isn’t just the roster which is having an overhaul, so is the mindset. The mindset of running the ball and being aggressive in doing so. Something that wasn’t just Canada’s thought, but came from the top. I mean the way top with Art Rooney II.

    “But I think up front, the mindset of what we are trying to do, again the charge from Mr. Rooney to be more physical, to run the football as an offensive lineman, you are going to like that.” Canada added. “We are going to come off the ball and we are going to do that. That doesn’t mean we are going to run the ball a million times or anything like that. But giving them an opportunity to be more aggressive.”

    All in all, Canada has been extremely pleased with the work ethic and dedication of the offensive line. Across the board.

    “All the way across the board, guys are working really hard. Because of the situation, we haven’t gone against our defense at all yet, so that will be interesting with Minicamp. And there will be some growing pains as we all know. But to get to go up against our defensive line every day makes us better and I feel really good about where the product will be in the fall when it matters.”

    With the conclusion of minicamp on Thursday, the Steelers won’t reconvene until they report to training camp. At this time, no one knows where training camp will be held, but the hope is the team will return to Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, PA at the end of July. Either way, the Steelers’ offensive line will dictate the success, or failure, of the offense in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    2018, first year without bell

    steelers ranked 7th lowest rush attempts
    2019 - 11th lowest
    2020 - tied for 4th lowest (with tampa)




    with bell
    2014 - 18th
    2015 - 9th
    2016 -18th
    2017 - 15th
    Correct. It has been worse lately sure. I did not say we were a bottom of the league run team with Bell.

    The premise of the article was we cannot rely on Ben's arm carrying the team. When you mentioned the "Bell run the wheels off" the implication is we ran a lot.

    We have never ran the ball a lot WITH Bell. We have been dependent on Ben's arm for years. Every season we are a higher ranked passing team than running team, and it is not close.

    Do the post above and dont leave out including ranking for passing attempts and my point is obvious.

    The article has merit. They haven't forgotten Bells era. The idea is that we gotta lean on the run with aging Ben. They aren't talking about a qb who is top 10 in passing like Ben often has been since we used to be in superbowls.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 06-19-2021 at 03:29 AM.

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    Whatever the Steelers run it's gotta be a whole hell of a lot better than the Fichtner show:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    I'd rather have Juju OR Claypool blocking than Ebron.
    Thank you.. I think people either forget or just didn’t know Ebron was never brought here to block.
    Tomlin’s coming back so what can you do?


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    dp..................
    Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 06-20-2021 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Correct. It has been worse lately sure. I did not say we were a bottom of the league run team with Bell.

    The premise of the article was we cannot rely on Ben's arm carrying the team. When you mentioned the "Bell run the wheels off" the implication is we ran a lot.

    We have never ran the ball a lot WITH Bell. We have been dependent on Ben's arm for years. Every season we are a higher ranked passing team than running team, and it is not close.

    Do the post above and dont leave out including ranking for passing attempts and my point is obvious.

    The article has merit. They haven't forgotten Bells era. The idea is that we gotta lean on the run with aging Ben. They aren't talking about a qb who is top 10 in passing like Ben often has been since we used to be in superbowls.
    with bell on the team
    the highest they ranked in pass attempts per game was 6th. some years finishing in the middle of the pack...and that's with one of the top wideouts in the game who (as we learned) would throw fits on the sidelines if the ball wasn't thrown to him.

    since bell's departure... they've ranked 1st in two of those years.

    so like I said, if they didn't want to rely on ben's arm as much the last few years they should have addressed the gaping hole of talent at the RB position.
    i'm not sure where you're getting this 'we relied on ben's arm too much" argument from. with bell on the team our numbers weren't nearly as lop sided as the were since he left

    i hope yinz are comparing those numbers with teams in the same year showing how the game has changed versus decades ago when they ran with franco and rocky
    Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 06-20-2021 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Correct. It has been worse lately sure.
    The premise of the article was we cannot rely on Ben's arm carrying the team. When you mentioned the "Bell run the wheels off" the implication is we ran a lot..

    there's no implication. we did run more with bell on the team and we also used him in the screen game a lot which you may be discounting. it skews the run/pass ratio, but those plays aren't "relying on Ben's Arm" like you suggest

    Every season we are a higher ranked passing team than running team, and it is not close. wrong, not in the years bell was here. use the link



    The article has merit. They haven't forgotten Bells era. The idea is that we gotta lean on the run with aging Ben.
    yeah, no kidding. we should have been doing that once bell left. the FO thought they could get by with the trash they had in the backfield and were dead wrong. to sugest it now, as ben is entering his late 30s seems a bit too obvious
    They aren't talking about a qb who is top 10 in passing like Ben often has been since we used to be in superbowls.
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    Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 06-20-2021 at 01:20 AM.

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