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    Why the Steelers drafting a LB in the first round still makes sense

    Why the Steelers drafting a LB in the first round still makes sense

    The thought originally left me scratching my head but there is a realistic shot the Steelers draft a linebacker in the first round

    By Michael_Beck@MichaelBeck56 Feb 6, 2021

    Most Steelers fans would agree the team needs to rebuild its offense starting in 2021. Sure, they have some interesting receiving options, and a couple linemen that could develop into starters, but the rest of the group leaves a lot to be desired. However, there’s a problem with trying to fill these holes in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft. There is a real chance the offensive linemen and quarterbacks worth taking in the first round will have already come off the board, and we already know the Steelers views on taking running back in the first round. The organization isn't going to reach on a prospect, and the last time they traded backward in the first round was 2001, so that isn't going to happen either.

    We already know the story when it comes to the Steelers drafting linebackers with their first round picks. Five of the last seven first rounders were linebackers, to be exact. Of those picks, only the first of which, Jarvis Jones, was a bust.

    Bottom line, they know what they are doing.

    When it comes to the 2021 NFL Draft we also have to keep in mind the sheer amount of holes the Steelers are going to have to fill. From multiple offensive linemen, a running back, cornerback, tight end, linebacker, and maybe even dip their toe in the quarterback market. In other words, the Steelers can go a multitude of different ways. The Steelers may also turn to cutting an inside linebacker to become salary cap compliant. That player being Vince Williams who, if cut, would give the Steelers an extra $4,000,000 of relief. If Williams finds himself on the chopping block, you can move inside linebacker to one of the biggest holes this team needs to fill.

    The player at the top of the draft board for the Steelers’ top pick could very well be Tulsa’s Zaven Collins. Collins is an inside backer with the ability to also play on the edge. For a team that will almost certainly lose Bud Dupree to the open market, getting someone who can do both would be ideal. His measurable’s are things teams drool over.

    Standing 6’4” and tipping the scales at 260 pounds, Collins’ speed resembles someone who's weighs 220 pounds. He’s a sideline to sideline linebacker who excels in a multiple front defense, like the Steelers often deploy. Collins is a heavy hitter, but he is one of the best coverage linebackers in the entire class. To top it off, no one could force turnovers like Collins throughout the entire NCAA last season. It was no surprise he won the 2020 Bronco Nagurski award as the top defensive player in college football.

    Other reasons why the Steelers will be high on Collins is he is an underclassman, and just 21 years old. This is something the Steelers have clearly coveted in its draft picks. Another, but much smaller, factor which may make Collins a more likely pick for the Steelers is it would keep him from falling to the Cleveland Browns, who would almost certainly select him if he makes it to their draft position.

    If the Steelers end up drafting Zaven Collins, they would have one of the best, young linebacker groups in football. The unit would be the spearhead of this team as it transitions into the next era of Steelers football. Do not fear this team selecting someone on the defensive side of the ball as early as the first round, especially if that player is as talented as Zaven Collins.

    What do you think? If the top offensive tackles are off the board when it’s the Steelers turn to pick, should they call Zaven Collins name?

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...en-collins-nfl
    1.24 Najee Harris RB Alabama / Travis Etienne RB Clemson
    2.55 Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma / Landon Dickerson C Alabama / Quinn Meinerz C Wisconsin-Whitewater
    3.87 Spencer Brown OT N Iowa / James Hudson OT Cincinnati / Stone Forsythe OT Florida
    4.128 Robert Rochell CB Central Arkansas / Kary Vincent Jr CB LSU
    4.140 Patrick Jones II OLB Pitt
    6.216 Tre' McKitty TE Georgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel;822539

    He’s a sideline to sideline linebacker who excels in a multiple front defense
    Collins is a heavy hitter, but he is one of the best coverage linebackers in the entire class. To top it off, no one could force turnovers like Collins throughout the entire NCAA last season. It was no surprise he won the 2020 Bronco Nagurski award as the top defensive player in college football.

    If the Steelers end up drafting Zaven Collins, they would have one of the best, young linebacker groups in football. The unit would be the spearhead of this team as it transitions into the next era of Steelers football.

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    I watched some Tulsa game tape not highlight tape of this guy. He didn't wow me at all. And that wasn't against the best talent either. IDK I'll look at some other tape and see if anything looks different. He just didn't look explosive.

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    I want OL if it's close, but if there's a clear BPA at a position of need you pretty much have to take it IMO.

    Hopefully Colbert can still put us in position where we have playable (if not great) players at all positions before the draft. Might be harder this year given the cap situation though.

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    Lance Zierlein 2021 NFL mock draft 1.0

    Pick 24 Pittsburgh Steelers

    Zaven Collins · LB
    School: Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

    The Steelers need a running back, but GM Kevin Colbert doesn't draft RBs this early. He does, however, seem to love taking linebackers in Round 1, and Collins' rare combination of size, range and coverage will be appealing.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierl...qbs-in-round-1
    1.24 Najee Harris RB Alabama / Travis Etienne RB Clemson
    2.55 Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma / Landon Dickerson C Alabama / Quinn Meinerz C Wisconsin-Whitewater
    3.87 Spencer Brown OT N Iowa / James Hudson OT Cincinnati / Stone Forsythe OT Florida
    4.128 Robert Rochell CB Central Arkansas / Kary Vincent Jr CB LSU
    4.140 Patrick Jones II OLB Pitt
    6.216 Tre' McKitty TE Georgia

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    Bucky Brooks 2021 NFL mock draft 1.0

    Pick 24 Pittsburgh Steelers

    Nick Bolton · LB
    School: Missouri | Year: Junior

    The heat-seeking missile from Missouri is the perfect partner for Devin Bush between the tackles.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/bucky-brook...-justin-fields
    1.24 Najee Harris RB Alabama / Travis Etienne RB Clemson
    2.55 Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma / Landon Dickerson C Alabama / Quinn Meinerz C Wisconsin-Whitewater
    3.87 Spencer Brown OT N Iowa / James Hudson OT Cincinnati / Stone Forsythe OT Florida
    4.128 Robert Rochell CB Central Arkansas / Kary Vincent Jr CB LSU
    4.140 Patrick Jones II OLB Pitt
    6.216 Tre' McKitty TE Georgia

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    Sounds like a writer just trying to be controversial. If the Steeler defense can't withstand the loss of Vince Williams and play with a 3rd, 4th or 5th round pick and all of the 1st round picks playing defense then they aren't as good as they think. Rebuild the offensive line because it looks like a less than mobile Ben or Mason Rudolph will be the quarterback.

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    The referee said that you hit Brian Sipe too hard. Did you hit him too hard?
    I hit him as hard as I could - Jack Lambert

    1.24 Darrisaw, Jenkins or Mayfield, OT
    2.55 Humphrey, Dickerson, or Myers whichever is available, C
    3.87 Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
    4.128 Trill Williams - CB, Syracuse or Meinerz, C
    4.140 Dylan Moses - ILB, Alabama
    6.216 Chris Rumph II - Edge, Duke
    7.245 Antonio Phillips - CB, Ball State
    7.254 Bobby Brown III - NT, Texas A&M

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Sounds like a writer just trying to be controversial. If the Steeler defense can't withstand the loss of Vince Williams and play with a 3rd, 4th or 5th round pick and all of the 1st round picks playing defense then they aren't as good as they think. Rebuild the offensive line because it looks like a less than mobile Ben or Mason Rudolph will be the quarterback.

    Pappy
    Seldom have I seen the large majority of posters so in sync as they are in wanting to fix the O-line with our first pick. Something like a 90 percentile.
    From the 2010-2020 season, (A 10 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    Dolphin fans in the 90’s who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the playoffs in the 70’s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Seldom have I seen the large majority of posters so in sync as they are in wanting to fix the O-line with our first pick. Something like a 90 percentile.
    I'm hoping for 2 OL in the first three rounds and an RB with the other. The defense could be world class but they won't make the playoffs next year with this year's offense, imo.

    Pappy


    The referee said that you hit Brian Sipe too hard. Did you hit him too hard?
    I hit him as hard as I could - Jack Lambert

    1.24 Darrisaw, Jenkins or Mayfield, OT
    2.55 Humphrey, Dickerson, or Myers whichever is available, C
    3.87 Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
    4.128 Trill Williams - CB, Syracuse or Meinerz, C
    4.140 Dylan Moses - ILB, Alabama
    6.216 Chris Rumph II - Edge, Duke
    7.245 Antonio Phillips - CB, Ball State
    7.254 Bobby Brown III - NT, Texas A&M

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    I'm hoping for 2 OL in the first three rounds and an RB with the other. The defense could be world class but they won't make the playoffs next year with this year's offense, imo.

    Pappy
    I’m with you. Desperately want two new starters in that O-line.
    From the 2010-2020 season, (A 10 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    Dolphin fans in the 90’s who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the playoffs in the 70’s...
    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008, with Cowher's players & coaches

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