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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Look who Tomlin has passed over.
    oh please, your Tomlin bashing is getting pathetic.

    you know damn well Tomlin has always had Ben as his QB, why in the world would we pick another franchise one?
    1.24 Najee Harris RB Alabama / Travis Etienne RB Clemson
    2.55 Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma / Landon Dickerson C Alabama / Quinn Meinerz C Wisconsin-Whitewater
    3.87 Spencer Brown OT N Iowa / James Hudson OT Cincinnati / Stone Forsythe OT Florida
    4.128 Robert Rochell CB Central Arkansas / Kary Vincent Jr CB LSU
    4.140 Patrick Jones II OLB Pitt
    6.216 Tre' McKitty TE Georgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    yeah, when you pick Tee Martin over Tom Brady it sure shows how good you are at evaluating QBs.
    People talk a lot about picking Tee Martin over Tom Brady but a more logical QB pick for the Steelers in that same round would have been Marc Bulger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    This is generally what happens to UFAs that get signed early IMO.
    He signed with the highest bidder which is his right. The championship talk was BS in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man of Steel View Post
    People talk a lot about picking Tee Martin over Tom Brady but a more logical QB pick for the Steelers in that same round would have been Marc Bulger.
    Selecting QBs (and other positions) is not an exact science. NFL teams passed on Brady 6 times. You also have the Tim Coachs and Ryan Leafs to factor in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man of Steel View Post
    People talk a lot about picking Tee Martin over Tom Brady but a more logical QB pick for the Steelers in that same round would have been Marc Bulger.
    Selecting QBs (and other positions) is not an exact science. NFL teams passed on Brady 6 times. You also have the Tim Couchs and Ryan Leafs to factor in. Tee martin won a national Championship at Tennessee, Payton Manning didn't. Just saying it's a huge leap and many variables come into play in the draft. Hindsight is always 20/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Dixon
    Jones
    Dobbs
    Rudolph
    Tomlins picks.....lol
    Meh

    All were drafted late in the hope they'd be competent back ups. And three of them probably fit that bill to some extent.

    And Dobbs we flipped into a pick and then got back anyway.

    It's hard to draft QBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Dixon
    Jones
    Dobbs
    Rudolph
    Tomlins picks.....lol
    I'll remind you again that between about 2010 and 2016 the college ranks were hardly cranking out NFL caliber QBs. A 'good' draft might have had maybe one, maybe two QBs as franchise potential. Check 2013 for example...yikes!
    And given their draft position during this time, the Steelers had little chance to grab one that could make a difference:

    Year; #; Rd ; Pick; Player #; Name; Team; School

    2016 1 1 1 1 Jared Goff Rams California
    2 1 2 2 Carson Wentz Eagles North Dakota State
    3 1 26 26 Paxton Lynch Broncos Memphis
    4 2 20 51 Christian Hackenberg Jets Penn State
    5 3 29 91 Jacoby Brissett Patriots North Carolina State
    6 3 31 93 Cody Kessler Browns USC
    7 4 2 100 Connor Cook Raiders Michigan State
    8 4 37 135 Dak Prescott Cowboys Mississippi State
    9 4 41 139 Cardale Jones Bills Ohio State
    10 5 25 162 Kevin Hogan Chiefs Stanford
    11 6 12 187 Nate Sudfeld Redskins Indiana
    12 6 16 191 Jake Rudock Lions Michigan
    13 6 26 201 Brandon Allen Jaguars Arkansas
    14 6 32 207 Jeff Driskel 49ers Louisiana Tech
    15 7 2 223 Brandon Doughty Dolphins Western Kentucky

    2015 1 1 1 1 Jameis Winston Buccaneers Florida State
    2 1 2 2 Marcus Mariota Titans Oregon
    3 3 11 75 Garrett Grayson Saints Colorado State
    4 3 25 89 Sean Mannion Rams Oregon State
    5 4 4 103 Bryce Petty Jets Baylor
    6 5 11 147 Brett Hundley Packers UCLA
    7 7 33 250 Trevor Siemian Broncos Northwestern

    2014 1 1 3 3 Blake Bortles Jaguars Central Florida
    2 1 22 22 Johnny Manziel Browns Texas A&M
    3 1 32 32 Teddy Bridgewater Vikings Louisville
    4 2 4 36 Derek Carr Raiders Fresno State
    5 2 30 62 Jimmy Garoppolo Patriots Eastern Illinois
    6 4 20 120 Logan Thomas Cardinals Virginia Tech
    7 4 35 135 Tom Savage Texans Pittsburgh
    8 5 23 163 Aaron Murray Chiefs Georgia
    9 5 24 164 AJ McCarron Bengals Alabama
    10 6 2 178 Zach Mettenberger Titans Louisiana State
    11 6 7 183 David Fales Bears San Jose State
    12 6 18 194 Keith Wenning Ravens Ball State
    13 6 37 213 Tajh Boyd Jets Clemson
    14 6 38 214 Garrett Gilbert Rams Southern Methodist

    2013 1 1 16 16 EJ Manuel Bills Florida State
    2 2 7 39 Geno Smith Jets West Virginia
    3 3 11 73 Mike Glennon Buccaneers North Carolina State
    4 4 1 98 Matt Barkley Eagles USC
    5 4 13 110 Ryan Nassib Giants Syracuse
    6 4 15 112 Tyler Wilson Raiders Arkansas
    7 4 18 115 Landry Jones Steelers Oklahoma
    8 7 15 221 Brad Sorensen Chargers Southern Utah
    9 7 28 234 Zac Dysert Broncos Miami (OH)
    10 7 31 237 B.J. Daniels 49ers South Florida
    11 7 43 249 Sean Renfree Falcons Duke

    2012 1 1 1 1 Andrew Luck Colts Stanford
    2 1 2 2 Robert Griffin Redskins Baylor
    3 1 8 8 Ryan Tannehill Dolphins Texas A&M
    4 1 22 22 Brandon Weeden Browns Oklahoma State
    5 2 25 57 Brock Osweiler Broncos Arizona State
    6 3 12 75 Russell Wilson Seahawks Wisconsin
    7 3 25 88 Nick Foles Eagles Arizona
    8 4 7 102 Kirk Cousins Redskins Michigan State
    9 6 15 185 Ryan Lindley Cardinals San Diego State
    10 7 36 243 B.J. Coleman Packers Tennessee-Chattanooga
    11 7 46 253 Chandler Harnish Colts Northern Illinois

    2011s 1 3 0 0 Terrelle Pryor Raiders Ohio State

    2011 1 1 1 1 Cam Newton Panthers Auburn
    2 1 8 8 Jake Locker Titans Washington
    3 1 10 10 Blaine Gabbert Jaguars Missouri
    4 1 12 12 Christian Ponder Vikings Florida State
    5 2 3 35 Andy Dalton Bengals Texas Christian
    6 2 4 36 Colin Kaepernick 49ers Nevada
    7 3 10 74 Ryan Mallett Patriots Arkansas
    8 5 4 135 Ricky Stanzi Chiefs Iowa
    9 5 21 152 T.J. Yates Texans North Carolina
    10 5 29 160 Nathan Enderle Bears Idaho
    11 6 15 180 Tyrod Taylor Ravens Virginia Tech
    12 7 5 208 Greg McElroy Jets Alabama

    2010 1 1 1 1 Sam Bradford Rams Oklahoma
    2 1 25 25 Tim Tebow Broncos Florida
    3 2 16 48 Jimmy Clausen Panthers Notre Dame
    4 3 21 85 Colt McCoy Browns Texas
    5 4 24 122 Mike Kafka Eagles Northwestern
    6 5 24 155 John Skelton Cardinals Fordham
    7 5 37 168 Jonathan Crompton Chargers Tennessee
    8 6 7 176 Rusty Smith Titans Florida Atlantic
    9 6 12 181 Dan LeFevour Bears Central Michigan
    10 6 30 199 Joe Webb Vikings Alabama-Birmingham
    11 6 35 204 Tony Pike Panthers Cincinnati
    12 7 2 209 Levi Brown Bills Troy
    13 7 32 239 Sean Canfield Saints Oregon State
    14 7 43 250 Zac Robinson Patriots Oklahoma State

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I remember you saying what a great pick tee Martin was and how he was going to be the next HOFer qb for us.
    nah, you obviously have me confused with Steel Maniac.

    I'm the one who said we should draft Tom Brady because he was going to be the GOAT.

    and I'll provide a link to where I said that as soon as you show me where I said that about the great Dean I mean Tee Martin.
    Last edited by hawaiiansteel; 03-01-2021 at 08:58 PM.
    1.24 Najee Harris RB Alabama / Travis Etienne RB Clemson
    2.55 Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma / Landon Dickerson C Alabama / Quinn Meinerz C Wisconsin-Whitewater
    3.87 Spencer Brown OT N Iowa / James Hudson OT Cincinnati / Stone Forsythe OT Florida
    4.128 Robert Rochell CB Central Arkansas / Kary Vincent Jr CB LSU
    4.140 Patrick Jones II OLB Pitt
    6.216 Tre' McKitty TE Georgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucktownsteeler View Post
    The Cardinals land JJ Watt.
    Knew he wasn't coming to the Steelers. Glad he didn't end up with the Stains.

    Do the Cardinals have any trade prospects that we could offer Derek Watt for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    oh please, your Tomlin bashing is getting pathetic.

    you know damn well Tomlin has always had Ben as his QB, why in the world would we pick another franchise one?
    Lol.... so you are telling me cowhers drafted tee Martin to be a franchise qb?
    Update:
    In the last decade, 25% of the league has won a super bowl(the Steelers aren't one of them) and now 50% have as many or more playoff wins as the Steelers.

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