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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
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    #61
    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
    one of the guys in the booth said pickett is the "most ready" qb to go in the draft after the year.
    and that its great timing for him because mac jones was the most ready guy last year and is doing well this year.

    let's say we pick #14 in the 1st round

    do you take pickett there?
    Franchise QBs don't make it out of the top 10.
    HOU, NOR, WAS, CAR, all need a QB. Unless the Steelers don't win another game I don't think they have a chance at him.

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    • Northern_Blitz
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      • Dec 2008
      • 24364

      #62
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      Franchise QBs don't make it out of the top 10.
      HOU, NOR, WAS, CAR, all need a QB. Unless the Steelers don't win another game I don't think they have a chance at him.
      And its a weak class by most / all accounts.

      Not sure we want the 3rd or 4th QB in a what people say is a below average class.

      Better to deal with sucking for a year than reach for a QB and suck for 4 years IMO.

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #63
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        Franchise QBs don't make it out of the top 10.
        HOU, NOR, WAS, CAR, all need a QB. Unless the Steelers don't win another game I don't think they have a chance at him.
        mac jones, the most ready qb in the draft went 15 th overall

        around the ara some are predicting pickett goes.

        if you have a second, answer the question posed

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        • NJ-STEELER
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          • May 2008
          • 12563

          #64
          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
          And its a weak class by most / all accounts.

          Not sure we want the 3rd or 4th QB in a what people say is a below average class.

          Better to deal with sucking for a year than reach for a QB and suck for 4 years IMO.
          drafting josh rosen high didn't stop the cards from drafting kyler murray.

          in today's nfl, these rookie contract QBs are setting their teams back 5-6 years like they did in the past when they busted

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          • NorthCoast
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            • Sep 2008
            • 26633

            #65
            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            mac jones, the most ready qb in the draft went 15 th overall

            around the ara some are predicting pickett goes.

            if you have a second, answer the question posed
            There were 4 QBs taken before Jones. There aren't 4 QBs worth a first round pick in the next draft. Pickett will get overdrafted by a QB needy team. Jones fell because he was considered more of a pocket passer and not a scrambling QB that teams have fallen in love with these days.

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            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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              • May 2008
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              #66
              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              one of the guys in the booth said pickett is the "most ready" qb to go in the draft after the year.
              and that its great timing for him because mac jones was the most ready guy last year and is doing well this year.

              let's say we pick #14 in the 1st round

              do you take pickett there?
              If you go QB in the first and play him behind anything resembling this Oline, part of his signing bonus should be a burial plot.
              http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #67
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                There were 4 QBs taken before Jones. There aren't 4 QBs worth a first round pick in the next draft. Pickett will get overdrafted by a QB needy team. Jones fell because he was considered more of a pocket passer and not a scrambling QB that teams have fallen in love with these days.
                there's a long way to go in the draft process plus a couple more games in the season.
                maybe KP doesn't test well in a certain drill and corral and another QB are now rated higher which then puts pickett at say middle of round 1.

                Question (for anyone. a simple question...don't go and say he won't be available)
                if you're in charge of the steelers do you select pickett with the 15th overall pick?

                i'll go first. yes i would

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                • papillon
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #68
                  No, lack of competition, lack of production his previous 3 years and the fact that Pitt hasn't been relevant in decades. They've produced a few very good to great players, Fitzgerald and Donald come to mind, but most that get drafted these days are middle of the pack or worse.

                  Pappy
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                  The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                  1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                  3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                  3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                  4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                  5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                  7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                  "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                  • hawaiiansteel
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                    • May 2008
                    • 35639

                    #69
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    there's a long way to go in the draft process plus a couple more games in the season.
                    maybe KP doesn't test well in a certain drill and corral and another QB are now rated higher which then puts pickett at say middle of round 1.

                    Question (for anyone. a simple question...don't go and say he won't be available)
                    if you're in charge of the steelers do you select pickett with the 15th overall pick?

                    i'll go first. yes i would
                    I still would want to confirm his hand size, it it's 8 1/4" then no thanks.

                    but if his hand size is closer to or above 9" then I would say yes also.

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #70
                      Originally posted by papillon
                      No, lack of competition, lack of production his previous 3 years and the fact that Pitt hasn't been relevant in decades. They've produced a few very good to great players, Fitzgerald and Donald come to mind, but most that get drafted these days are middle of the pack or worse.

                      Pappy
                      how's PSU doing this year?

                      the positives. pro style offense. 40 Tds. has mobility

                      aaaaannnnnnnndddd probably the most important for some on here...... He's not Ben

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                      • NJ-STEELER
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                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #71
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        I still would want to confirm his hand size, it it's 8 1/4" then no thanks.

                        but if his hand size is closer to or above 9" then I would say yes also.

                        if there's a NFL team that would know the most about him. it should be us


                        can you imagine passing on him and he becomes a good pro? that would not be a good look for the FO

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                        • papillon
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #72
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          how's PSU doing this year?

                          the positives. pro style offense. 40 Tds. has mobility

                          aaaaannnnnnnndddd probably the most important for some on here...... He's not Ben
                          I don't really care how PSU is doing this year, I'm a Pitt grad from when they were good. I was in school with Dorsett, Marino, Romano, Jackson, Grimm, the Pelusi brothers, Jury, Gordon Jones, etc. so, I've seen good Pitt football teams up close and it makes me sad to see where the program is now. Although, this year is pretty good, not sure the defense is up to snuff but the offense seems to move the ball and score points.

                          TDs and mobility are positives, but there's a lot more to playing QB in the NFL.

                          Not being Ben could actually be a positive in today's game where throwing on the run and from awkward positions seems to be the norm.

                          But, I still wouldn't draft him in the first round, if he happened to be there in the second, I'd be game.

                          I think this year's premium picks have to be OL, DL and if they don't pick up the 5th year option on Bush, then an ILB.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27508

                            #73
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            I don't really care how PSU is doing this year, I'm a Pitt grad from when they were good. I was in school with Dorsett, Marino, Romano, Jackson, Grimm, the Pelusi brothers, Jury, Gordon Jones, etc. so, I've seen good Pitt football teams up close and it makes me sad to see where the program is now. Although, this year is pretty good, not sure the defense is up to snuff but the offense seems to move the ball and score points.

                            TDs and mobility are positives, but there's a lot more to playing QB in the NFL.

                            Not being Ben could actually be a positive in today's game where throwing on the run and from awkward positions seems to be the norm.

                            But, I still wouldn't draft him in the first round, if he happened to be there in the second, I'd be game.

                            I think this year's premium picks have to be OL, DL and if they don't pick up the 5th year option on Bush, then an ILB.

                            Pappy
                            wow.. you were there for the glory years.

                            I remember the Pitt Georgia game in 82. That was the last great memory of Pitt football. My grandad was going for Georgia but everyone else was going for Pitt.

                            Also remember going to my first Pitt game at the old stadium. It was 3-3 and my uncle was one of those “lets beat the traffic” guys.. and we missed the PITT pick 6 to win the game… smh. It was so cold at that game and I missed the best play because this man wanted to beat traffic. We were in traffic when the freaking play happened.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • NJ-STEELER
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                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              #74
                              Originally posted by papillon
                              I don't really care how PSU is doing this year, I'm a Pitt grad from when they were good. I was in school with Dorsett, Marino, Romano, Jackson, Grimm, the Pelusi brothers, Jury, Gordon Jones, etc. so, I've seen good Pitt football teams up close and it makes me sad to see where the program is now. Although, this year is pretty good, not sure the defense is up to snuff but the offense seems to move the ball and score points.




                              Pappy
                              nice class. yeah this years team isnt that good, but at lesst there's improvement.
                              apologize i had you pegged as a PSU fan

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                              • NorthCoast
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26633

                                #75
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                there's a long way to go in the draft process plus a couple more games in the season.
                                maybe KP doesn't test well in a certain drill and corral and another QB are now rated higher which then puts pickett at say middle of round 1.

                                Question (for anyone. a simple question...don't go and say he won't be available)
                                if you're in charge of the steelers do you select pickett with the 15th overall pick?

                                i'll go first. yes i would
                                Still a lot of ball to play yet this season so I haven't dug into next draft much.

                                But knowing all the other Steeler needs I wouldn't draft a QB. He would be wasted behind a sketchy OL. I'd use Rudolph as a QB dummy for next season. After all, he's already on the books.

                                You would probably hate the pick but a guy like Jordan Davis would instantly cure a lot of what is ailing the defense. We are talking Hampton2.0.

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