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Thread: Who thinks we should fire Tomlin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    No one is seriously suggesting getting rid of Tomlin at this time.
    not true, read Steel Maniac's sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaBrownsfan View Post
    Hi, i'm a long time Browns fan, and i have to say, why would the Steelers want to let Coach Tomlin go ?? This team has a winning culture. Their history proves that. No matter if its, Chuck Noll, Bill Cowher or Mike Tomlin, the Steelers are a top NFL teams with constant winning seasons. I wish my Browns could have the record like the Steelers. In the past 20 yrs, the Browns have had countless head coaches, terrible QB's, and numerous players that come and go. And what do we have to show for it, just look at their records for the past 20 yrs. You have to thank the Browns and Bengals for majority of the Steelers wins per season. Now if the Steelers were 0-6 well then there is something to wonder why? I never felt it was fair for the head coach to get fired and the players keep their jobs, and their high paid contracts for playing very poorly.
    The Steelers have no intention of letting Tomlin go.

    But you can always find dissenting opinions on internet message boards
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-19-2020 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I agree. I'd rather be competitive every year than boom and bust like other teams.
    Especially since most teams don't get the "boom" (TM by SM).

    Or if they do their "boom" isn't much different that our consistently competitive play (except it's generally for fewer years).

    We've been exceptionally luck for the last 30 years or so. It won't continue forever. There will be big questions / challenges when Ben retires.

    So let's enjoy the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Some idiots will

    Hear that? The goalposts are moving as we type
    Why would you start a thread like this after such a great win? It seems a lot worse than the Tomlin haters themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Why would you start a thread like this after such a great win? It seems a lot worse than the Tomlin haters themselves.
    if you think it’s worse to start a thread rubbing it in the nose of Tomlin haters than to actually be a Tomlin hater.. well that speaks volumes.

    This is a message board. A Steeler message board. Rooting FOR the coach and the team should never been seen as a negative vs the alternative.
    Tomlinís coming back so what can you do?


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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    if you think itís worse to start a thread rubbing it in the nose of Tomlin haters than to actually be a Tomlin hater.. well that speaks volumes.

    This is a message board. A Steeler message board. Rooting FOR the coach and the team should never been seen as a negative vs the alternative.
    Exactly. Those that hate Tomlin will cling to that no matter the facts put in front of them. Can't wait until he is the winningest coach in Steelers history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    if you think it’s worse to start a thread rubbing it in the nose of Tomlin haters than to actually be a Tomlin hater.. well that speaks volumes.

    This is a message board. A Steeler message board. Rooting FOR the coach and the team should never been seen as a negative vs the alternative.
    It's often interesting how some people still can see Tomlin remained a quality HC because of the disappointments in the past. Disappointments often clouds people's judgement. The same can be said for Harbaugh with the Ravens. Ravens fans thought he was in decline. Well look at the Ravens now.

    I think it might take 3 consistently bad losing seasons for the Ravens and Steelers to let go of Tomlin and Harbaugh.

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    I'm all in favor of firing TOMLIN
    ....if he loses control of a Healthy team w/ a healthy BEN down the stretch and the Steelers finish 7-9
    Other than that - Nope
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Exactly. Those that hate Tomlin will cling to that no matter the facts put in front of them. Can't wait until he is the winningest coach in Steelers history.
    I think the lessons from the table below are that (i) we have been spoiled rotten as Steelers fans because all of these three coaches have been well above average (2 in the HoF although I think BC shouldn't have gotten in despite that fact that I think he's a great coach), (ii) having an elite team without a cap or free agency is great for dynasties, (iii) it seems pretty likely that Tomlin will finish with more wins that Cowher, but I don't know if he'll pass Noll (need ~ 60 more wins).

    Source (but I added our 5 wins this season to Tomlin's numbers): https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/Pitt...0respectively.
    Without those extra 5 wins, his W% = 64.3%.

    Coach W L T W% PW PL PW%
    Noll 193 148 1 56.6% 16 8 66.7%
    Cowher 149 90 1 62.3% 12 9 57.1%
    Tomlin 138 74 1 65.1% 8 7 53.3%

    Cowher coached for 15 seasons and this is MT's 14th.

    So if we can win 4 playoff games in the next 2 seasons (hopefully all in one year, thanks), he'll have equaled BC's playoff win total in the same number of seasons.

    Cowher's playoff record was certainly saved by his 14th season. Let's hope that MT has the same end result in year 14!

    W - Wins
    L - Losses
    T - Ties
    PW - Playoff wins
    PL - Playoff losses
    PW% - Playoff win percentage
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-20-2020 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    I want Superbowls too. Just think it is stupid to expect that if we don't win it it means fire the coach. The desire to disregard his championship and return to a SB because he inherited players from a team on the decline?

    Nobody but Steeler fans ever thinks we are even supposed to be SB favorites based on talent every year.

    I do think Tomlins biggest fail was a period of coddling high tier talent. I think he learned from it (as I predicted he would) and has created a culture where character matters more than ever.

    Dude is a really good coach
    Perfectly summed up at 1:50:


    "Is it too much to ask our team just stay healthy the entire season and we win all our games and the Super Bowl? Is that too much?"

    FWIW I think Tomlin's biggest mistake was not splitting carries between Bell and Blount (and generally running RBs into the ground). If we had a healthy RB2 in that playoff run and the Pats didn't have Blount, maybe we have another Lombardi in the trophy case.

    But, you've got to take the bad with the good. And we're way ahead on the ledger there.

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