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    Rash of CV positives for Steelers

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...covid-positive

    Word is they could all be fake. How are we supposed to trust the govt. CV#'s if so many positives are bull ca ca?

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    https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2007692/nfl-investigating-multiple-positive-covid-19-tests-from-same-lab

    The NFL is investigating a number of positive COVID-19 tests from its teams using a single laboratory in New Jersey, the league announced Sunday, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1297532513875894274).

    ​"Saturday's daily COVID testing returned several positives tests from each of the clubs serviced by the same laboratory in New Jersey," the NFL said in a statement. "We are working with our testing partner, BioReference, to investigate these results, while the clubs work to confirm or rule out the positive tests.

    "Clubs are taking immediate precautionary measures as outlined in the NFL-NFLPA's health and safety protocols to include contact tracing, isolation of individuals, and temporarily adjusting the schedule, where appropriate. The other laboratories used for NFL testing have not had similar results."
    The Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota Vikings, and New York Jets are some of the known teams affected with presumptive positive tests by Saturday's irregular COVID-19 results.

    The Browns canceled their practice Sunday and will conduct meetings virtually, while the Bears postponed their morning practice to Sunday afternoon despite learning their nine test results were all false positives, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1297536241244790784).
    Buffalo Bills (https://www.thescore.com/nfl/teams/1) general manager Brandon Beane says the team will miss some players at practice Sunday, according to Sal Capaccio of WGR 550 (https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/1297544972095369216).
    Beane considers the setback "more of a lab issue," according to Kim Jones of NFL Network (https://twitter.com/KimJonesSports/status/1297547030517166081).

    The NFL recently extended its daily testing period through Sept. 5. The league has conducted more than 100,000 tests for the coronavirus since training camps began in late July, and just 1% returned positive, according to Tom Pelissero of NFL Network (https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1297533987301326850).

    Only four players are currently on the league's reserve/COVID-19 list, which was created for those who test positive or need to be quarantined after having contact with someone who tests positive.

    Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford (https://www.thescore.com/nfl/players/680) was placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list soon after training camp. The Lions later confirmed (https://www.thescore.com/news/199620 it was a false positive and Stafford never contracted the coronavirus.

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    The whole positive test stats are BS. The positive test number are inflated and still there is a 99.97 survival rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    The whole positive test stats are BS. The positive test number are inflated and still there is a 99.97 survival rate.
    The COVID19 tests don't appear to be good enough. Hopefully an improvement can be made on the accuracy of tests and time it takes to get results.

    Even if people survive COVID19 there are several potential long term health issues that people might have live with. I don't believe people should take COVID19 lightly based on statistics. A lot of people died as a result of the infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    The whole positive test stats are BS. The positive test number are inflated and still there is a 99.97 survival rate.
    I think with low disease prevalence, positive predictive value isn't as good as negative predictive value. So, if you get a negative test when ~ 1% are coming back positive, you're almost certainly negative. But you'd be less sure of any one positive test.

    I think this is a good video sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value, and negative predictive value here (check at about 8 minutes if you want to see PPV and NPV):



    At least I think it's a good video, it's not my area of expertise.

    But back to your point: Inflating the positive test numbers would increase the survival rate, right?

    Survival rate would be:
    SR% = [(positive tests) - deaths)]/[positive tests] x 100%

    If positive tests were inflates, it would also inflate the survival rate.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 08-23-2020 at 05:41 PM.
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    Tomlin playoff record vs. expectations (Cowher pg24): ... /48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page22

    Tomlin's Las year: ... 49599-Just-sayin?p=778284#post778284

    Maniac Talent>Coaching: ...49632-Trades?p=779158#post779158

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    The whole positive test stats are BS. The positive test number are inflated and still there is a 99.97 survival rate.
    There is so much fraud going on. And anyone who thinks they are just "mistakes" aren't even trying to pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post

    If positive tests were inflates, it would also inflate the survival rate.
    Well, your premise would be correct, except they are f---g with the death rates too. Hospitals are monetarily rewarded for every supposed CV death by the govt. Hence, basically anything can be attributed to CV deaths. And in some cases, the deaths attributed to CV are just silly as hell. Every year, loads of people die from the flu and pneumonia. I wonder just how many of those cases are now deaths attributed to CV? How many people dying of diabetes are chalked up to CV?

    It's an absolutely corrupt state with a dirty agenda. The inventor of one of the tests used came out and admitted the test is completely unreliable and worthless in accuracy.

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    All six players were cleared and attended afternoon team activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whisper View Post
    Well, your premise would be correct, except they are f---g with the death rates too. Hospitals are monetarily rewarded for every supposed CV death by the govt. Hence, basically anything can be attributed to CV deaths. And in some cases, the deaths attributed to CV are just silly as hell. Every year, loads of people die from the flu and pneumonia. I wonder just how many of those cases are now deaths attributed to CV? How many people dying of diabetes are chalked up to CV?

    It's an absolutely corrupt state with a dirty agenda. The inventor of one of the tests used came out and admitted the test is completely unreliable and worthless in accuracy.
    From the above video I think it's very hard to get a test with positives you have high confidence in when prevalence is so low.
    Talent vs coaching: [url]www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48851-Poll-Question-for-Everyone/page14[/url]

    Steelers vs. Other Teams with good QBs: ... /47985-Steelers-most-successful-failure/page5

    Tomlin playoff record vs. expectations (Cowher pg24): ... /48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page22

    Tomlin's Las year: ... 49599-Just-sayin?p=778284#post778284

    Maniac Talent>Coaching: ...49632-Trades?p=779158#post779158

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    The COVID19 tests don't appear to be good enough. Hopefully an improvement can be made on the accuracy of tests and time it takes to get results.

    Even if people survive COVID19 there are several potential long term health issues that people might have live with. I don't believe people should take COVID19 lightly based on statistics. A lot of people died as a result of the infection.
    Recently read where the strain of covid people are getting infected with today is not as damaging to humans. A virus that kills its host can't survive in the long run, so they mutate to become less deadly. That's at least a bit of positive news.

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