What about clock management?

[Mr.wizard]

Steelers had 1 timeout left in the first half and only ran 17 seconds off the clock before calling the timeout before bozs fg......
Go look it up

No they didn't I just looked up the play-by-play, they ran a play the time ticked off, they ran another play with 12 seconds left, got a roughing penalty and then ran a play with 7 seconds that was incomplete and kicked a field goal to end the half.

[Oh wow]

The Steelers did lose about 15 seconds of time because they didn't use the final timeout after a short pass play to about the 20 (I think). They ran the second play hurry-up, it was incomplete and Mason was roughed this left 7 seconds, they tried a quick pass then took the FG.

Wouldn't it have been better to stop the clock after the short gain to the 20 yard line and leave about 20 seconds. You can take two shots into the EZ and if unsuccessful, kick the FG. By not taking the TO, the Steelers got one real quick look at an EZ throw.

Pappy

Not sure I want Mason taking shots in the endzone from the 20.

Maybe they could’ve clocked it?

[Mr.wizard]

The Steelers did lose about 15 seconds of time because they didn't use the final timeout after a short pass play to about the 20 (I think). They ran the second play hurry-up, it was incomplete and Mason was roughed this left 7 seconds, they tried a quick pass then took the FG.

Wouldn't it have been better to stop the clock after the short gain to the 20 yard line and leave about 20 seconds. You can take two shots into the EZ and if unsuccessful, kick the FG. By not taking the TO, the Steelers got one real quick look at an EZ throw.

Pappy

I just think the 20 is too far to limit the QB to just end zone passes, I think they wanted to have the option to throw it short of the goal line.

[Mr.wizard]

Not sure I want Mason taking shots in the endzone from the 20.

Maybe they could’ve clocked it?

Problem is you don't get the extra shots, because he would of had to clock it on 2nd and 6 putting him in 3rd and 6, so he only gets one shot and has to kick the field goal anyway.

[NJ-STEELER]

The Steelers did lose about 15 seconds of time because they didn't use the final timeout after a short pass play to about the 20 (I think). They ran the second play hurry-up, it was incomplete and Mason was roughed this left 7 seconds, they tried a quick pass then took the FG.

Wouldn't it have been better to stop the clock after the short gain to the 20 yard line and leave about 20 seconds. You can take two shots into the EZ and if unsuccessful, kick the FG. By not taking the TO, the Steelers got one real quick look at an EZ throw.

Pappy

it was after samuel's catch. and yes, as soon as they saw he didn't get out of bounds, they should have called a timeout.

this was a typical clock management mistake by tomlin

[papillon]

I just think the 20 is too far to limit the QB to just end zone passes, I think they wanted to have the option to throw it short of the goal line.

Well, what they would have been limited to are the sideline and end zone. Since in the end zone is a TD that leaves the middle of the field available there, plus the sideline. I just think at some point you have to play football and try to win the game rather than play to not lose the game. I would have called the TO, told him we're looking to the sideline or end zone, if it isn't there, throw it away, same on the next play, then kick if unsuccessful.

Pappy

[papillon]

Not sure I want Mason taking shots in the endzone from the 20.

Maybe they could’ve clocked it?

Yea, they could have clocked it, not sure what that would have left them on the clock, it may have kept the middle of the field in play for one more play and you have the TO to stop it if the play isn't a TD. I just think letting it run and running a hurry-up wasn't ideal.

Pappy

[Northern_Blitz]

Yea, they could have clocked it, not sure what that would have left them on the clock, it may have kept the middle of the field in play for one more play and you have the TO to stop it if the play isn't a TD. I just think letting it run and running a hurry-up wasn't ideal.

Pappy

It's tough because taking points early is usually a good strategy.

But, I think trying to get a strike for the TD would have been reasonable too.

[Mr.wizard]

Well, what they would have been limited to are the sideline and end zone. Since in the end zone is a TD that leaves the middle of the field available there, plus the sideline. I just think at some point you have to play football and try to win the game rather than play to not lose the game. I would have called the TO, told him we're looking to the sideline or end zone, if it isn't there, throw it away, same on the next play, then kick if unsuccessful.

Pappy

Sure it leaves you the sidelines but they are worried about a guy being tackled in bounds with no timeouts. You want the full compliment of routes and having the timeout ensures that Ravens will have to defend against those routes and not just protect the end zone and sidelines. I think it is playing to win, you are ensuring you get points without having to make risky plays.

[whatever]

The Steelers did lose about 15 seconds of time because they didn't use the final timeout after a short pass play to about the 20 (I think). They ran the second play hurry-up, it was incomplete and Mason was roughed this left 7 seconds, they tried a quick pass then took the FG.

Wouldn't it have been better to stop the clock after the short gain to the 20 yard line and leave about 20 seconds. You can take two shots into the EZ and if unsuccessful, kick the FG. By not taking the TO, the Steelers got one real quick look at an EZ throw.

Pappy

Thank you.
Let's see if the ones that accused me of not watching the game admit that they are the clueless ones.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Problem is you don't get the extra shots, because he would of had to clock it on 2nd and 6 putting him in 3rd and 6, so he only gets one shot and has to kick the field goal anyway.

correct... clocking it doesn't give you that down back... so,he'd get ONE shot if you do it that way and if he's sacked or tackled in bounds, they're toast

[Oh wow]

correct... clocking it doesn't give you that down back... so,he'd get ONE shot if you do it that way and if he's sacked or tackled in bounds, they're toast

or he throws for a first down and then calls a TO and takes 2 shots.

or he throws for a first down and the WR or RB gets out of bounds and saves a time out.

or we miss on the first down and kick the FG

[Mr.wizard]

correct... clocking it doesn't give you that down back... so,he'd get ONE shot if you do it that way and if he's sacked or tackled in bounds, they're toast

Exactly right, the clock was managed correctly, I think the QB needs to get the play called and ball snapped faster after a 4 yard gain but i for sure dont think you call the timeout.

[Oh wow]

Exactly right, the clock was managed correctly, I think the QB needs to get the play called and ball snapped faster after a 4 yard gain but i for sure dont think you call the timeout.

I wasn’t a fan of the high floater our of the endzone. Throw it in the dirt at a players feet and save 3 seconds.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Exactly right, the clock was managed correctly, I think the QB needs to get the play called and ball snapped faster after a 4 yard gain but i for sure dont think you call the timeout.

it's a very different situation if you've got Ben back there, too. You'd trust that he won't take the sack and actually might be able to call a play at the LOS himself... not something you'd necessarily trust with a guy making what, his 3rd NFL start - too many things could go wrong.