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Thread: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

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    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

    The Good

    1. We Won
    2. 8 Sacks
    3. Mason - 24/28, 2 TDs and 0 Ints, 8.2 YPA
    4. Samuels, Conner, and Johnson - ~90% of our offense
    5. Pass Pro - Mason had lots of time
    6. Vannett - Quick turnaround, made a couple plays. Upgrade @ #2 TE and may have some upside.
    7. Secondary - This may turn into our strength


    The Bad

    1. Can't Stop the Run - Mixon - 4.1 YPC
    2. Can't Run Between Tackles. Oline needs a lot of work as does play calling.
    3. Johnson's Fumble turned into 3 pts
    4. Watching Barron cover a TE - Butler's D allows other teams to force bad matchups on us all the time.



    The Ugly

    1. 33% - 3rd down conversions
    2. Not allowing Mason to throw downfield even when opponent loads up in the box to stop the run
    3. TOP - We had the ball less than Cincy @ 29:46
    4. The Challenge - Can someone hide Tomlin's challenge flag please?




    Overall it was great to see our first win of the season. Hopefully we can start stacking wins and coming together as a team. There's a lot of potential here, but there's even more work to do.

    What did you see that you liked last night?

    What did you see that's got you concerned?

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    Not being able to stop the run, the number one rushing offense is coming to town at 205 yards per game.
    3rd down conversions
    Intermediate passing game

    Pappy


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    1.20 - Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan
    3.66 - Diontae Johnson, WR, Toledo
    3.83 - Justin Layne, CB, MSU
    4.122 - Benny Snell, RB, Kentucky
    5.141 - Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan
    6.175 - Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois
    6.192 - Isaiah Buggs, DE, Alabama
    6.207 - Ulysees Gilbert III, OLB, Akron
    7.219 - Derwin Gray, OL, Maryland

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    Not sure how I feel about the opinion of stopping the run.

    I think we were more concerned with the pass in the second half so we gave up a few chunks.

    They only had 3 points which tells me we tightens up once they crossed mid field.

    Also didn’t mind the challenge at all. It was a terrible OPI call and we had no momentum on O early so I think Tomlin was trying to keep Mason from pressing early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Not sure how I feel about the opinion of stopping the run.

    I think we were more concerned with the pass in the second half so we gave up a few chunks.


    They only had 3 points which tells me we tightens up once they crossed mid field.
    Agree. If we couldn't stop the run at all, then why didn't the Bungles run it all night into the endzone? We stopped it when we had to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Also didn’t mind the challenge at all. It was a terrible OPI call and we had no momentum on O early so I think Tomlin was trying to keep Mason from pressing early.
    This was a challenge that I was screaming for. I thought maybe Tomlin was going to be shy about challenging it. It was absolutely the right call to challenge it. The only "Bad" in that was the outcome. Officials are just all over the place. Some are too afraid to overturn calls on the field. Everyone could see that it was clearly NOT pass interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Not sure how I feel about the opinion of stopping the run.

    I think we were more concerned with the pass in the second half so we gave up a few chunks.

    They only had 3 points which tells me we tightens up once they crossed mid field.

    Also didn’t mind the challenge at all. It was a terrible OPI call and we had no momentum on O early so I think Tomlin was trying to keep Mason from pressing early.
    Re: the runs, our best way to combat it is to run up the score so the other team can't run. In a close game against a slightly better team, I think we get gouged by a good running attack. I also long for Vince to be back.

    Re: the challenge. I think we should rename Tomlin's challenge flag, the long time out flag. He's never gonna win a challenge and I'm ok using it when the team needs a long break. If he truly used it to give Mason time to settle himself, then it was a good usage.

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    Seems like the defense was flying around. Barron, Dupree and Hilton especially.
    Was Fitzpatrick on the field.?
    I liked the gimmicky stuff. Credit for mixing it up. Let's see if it is effective against better teams.

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    Tell you one thing, we are going to get a large dose of Mark Ingram. And when LJ wonders out the pocket, we have to make him pay!

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    Good: The game plan. I've been as critical of the coaching staff as anyone, but will gladly give credit for the game plan. Well planned and executed.
    Good: Bush continues to improve.
    Good: Watt is a complete stud!
    Bad: Struggling to run the ball between the tackles. Not sure if it was the defensive formation Cincy was playing with multiple DT's clogging the middle, but it's been an issue all year. Need to figure that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Not being able to stop the run, the number one rushing offense is coming to town at 205 yards per game.
    3rd down conversions
    Intermediate passing game

    Pappy
    A bunch of their running (238 yards so far) comes from the QB too and I think that's a different skill set to defend than rushes from the RB. To put that in perspective, Jackson (23 has about 100 more yards than Conner (139) this year.

    It seems like we do have several athletes that would be capable spies on Jackson. I hope it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Was Fitzpatrick on the field?
    He was our free safety and Cincy was not particularly successful passing the ball downfield against us this week.

    Many times when you see a lot of your FS, it's because he allow a long completion and is trying to make tackles 20 yards or so beyond the line of scrimmage. His coverage downfield might have been a primary reason why our front seven was able to get to Dalton 8 times. He just didn't get the glory of the INT and the FF like last week.

    I'm satisfied with a quietly solid game from him in our defensive secondary. We don't necessarily need to see spectacularly dynamic Troy-like plays from him all the time in order to be successful. He did his job back there last night. I'm good with that.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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