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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Nah, pressure and expectations are lessened now.

    What is interesting is that I felt he created an environment of favoritism of stars that he now recognize as a mistake.
    Ben IS the last of those guys and the biggest beneficiary of that. He could not put that toothpaste into the tube with Ben.

    In a weird way it give Tomlin a ďfresh startĒ with a young team.
    and he's off to a hell of a start.

    punting the ball with 5 minutes left down 2 scores.

    shouldn't take long to see how far over his head this coaching thaaang is

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    Mark Madden: Ben Roethlisbergerís injury tops long list of Steelersí problems

    MARK MADDEN | Monday, September 16, 2019

    Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger plays against the Patriots Sept. 10, 2015 at Gillette Stadium.

    It was hoped that the departure of Antonio Brown would make the Steelers a more focused and disciplined team by way of removing distraction.

    It hasnít turned out that way.

    Losing Ben Roethlisberger for the rest of the season trumps any other problem. But the Steelers are in a state of perpetual sloppiness that wonít be corrected as long as Mike Tomlin is coach. Lack of accountability has taken firm root. Rome will keep burning as long as itís the same fiddler playing the same tired tune.

    That was evidenced by a host of miscues in Sundayís 28-26 home loss to Seattle. Eliminating almost any one of them would have meant victory.

    Defensive lineman Daniel McCullers stands at the front of the line.

    Somebody who barely plays canít commit a personal foul on a field-goal attempt and allow three points to become seven. (Do the math.) McCullers made contact with the long snapper, which is illegal. If he knew the rule, heís an idiot. If he didnít, heís unprepared. Either way, itís inexcusable.

    Wide receiver Donte Moncrief is public enemy No. 1 in Pittsburgh right now.

    Moncrief opened the season with four drops at New England.

    But the Steelers still would have lost at Foxboro had Moncrief caught all those balls, then tacked on generous YAC. It was a slaughter.

    But Moncriefís lone drop (and lone target) against Seattle was devastating. Backup quarterback Mason Rudolph was pressed into service when Roethlisberger got hurt. Rudolphís second pro pass, despite being perfectly thrown, clanged off Moncriefís hands and into the waiting mitts of Seattleís Bradley McDougald.

    The Seahawks were in the end zone six plays later to go ahead, 14-10. They never lost that lead.

    Moncrief didnít play a snap after that. Even though itís just two games into his Steelersí tenure, itís going to be difficult putting him on the field ever again in a meaningful situation. His failure has been epic, and extremely damaging.

    The Steelers missed numerous tackles. Itís become a trademark of their defense.

    Linebacker Anthony Chickilo flubbed a chance to tackle Rashaad Penny in the backfield on third-and-2 at the Steelersí 37. Penny ended up covering all 37 of those yards as Seattle extended its lead to 21-13.

    Compounding the embarrassment, Seattle QB Russell Wilson led the downfield blocking to complete that play.

    Safety Sean Davis made a bonehead play in the first quarter, negating Mark Barronís fumble-return touchdown by drawing a flag for a totally unnecessary block in the back. Luckily for Davis, the Steelers scored a TD on the possession that followed.

    Losing Roethlisberger is a dagger. But the Steelers were 0-2 before his elbow was diagnosed, and seemed unlikely to rally significantly. Itís difficult to read very much into body language, but the Steelers look like they know theyíre not very good.

    Rudolph played fine Sunday: 12-of-19, 112 yards, two touchdowns and that interception that really belongs to Moncrief.

    But the adrenaline Rudolph felt vs. Seattle will dissipate by next Sundayís game at San Francisco. The gravity of the situation will sink in for Rudolph and his teammates. Itís not easy to replace a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback who threw for 5,129 yards last season, let alone rally the Steelers from starting 0-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlifter View Post
    Hereís my rose colored glasses thought.

    Really tough to replace a HOF QB.

    That being said:

    Rudolph has the skills
    Heís young and fearless
    Heís not old, jaded or a diva
    He wonít be the leader because itís bestowed upon him. Heíll have to earn it.
    Fichtner wonít be Ďhis guyí or taking orders, heíll be the one in charge.
    The receivers have no cushion now. They know they have to be there for mason
    The defense has to come together NOW.

    Odds are long - but this could work. Get a W next week and letís see how it unfolds.

    LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!

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    Steelers put Ben Roethlisberger on IR, promote Devlin Hodges

    Posted by Josh Alper on September 16, 2019, 4:26 PM EDT

    The Steelers announced on Monday that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger would be placed on injured reserve due to the elbow injury he suffered in Sunday’s loss to the Seahawks.

    That move became official a few hours later when the Steelers formally announced the roster move. Quarterback Devlin Hodges has been promoted from the practice squad to fill the open spot.

    Roethlisberger is expected to have surgery on his elbow this week and miss the rest of the season as a result of the injury. Hodges is now the only quarterback behind 2018 third-round pick Mason Rudolph, who is set to make his first NFL start against the 49ers in Week Three.

    Hodges was undrafted out of Samford and signed with the Steelers after a tryout at this year’s rookie minicamp. He went 20-of-38 for 190 yards, two touchdowns and an interception in the preseason.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    and he's off to a hell of a start.

    punting the ball with 5 minutes left down 2 scores.

    shouldn't take long to see how far over his head this coaching thaaang is
    We need to clean house at the end of the year. New starting QB, and a new coach. A coach that will establish accountability and expectations of every man doing his job. Or else.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (A 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.
    Dolphin fans in the 90ís who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the 70ís...

    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008.



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