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Thread: Fire Butler asap. And take the offense out of Ben's hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    9/18/19:

    AugustWest: If Keith Butler can't carve a legitimate top-5 or 10 defense with this many first-round picks at his disposal (most of them young), should he still be the coordinator in 2020?

    Gerry Dulac: Good question, but you should direct the question in terms of Mike Tomlin running the defense.
    You do realize that the above criteria HAS already been achieved recently with fewer 1st rounders right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    9/18/19:

    KN: Hello. Thank you for the chat. I am not a Tomlin hater but why is Tomlin not getting more heat for the defensive woes of the Steelers ? From everything I have heard, he has more and more fingerprints over the defense. We have communication issues every year . We do not have a spy on Wilson , as per Dupree admission. Are clichés enough to be head coach? Thank you very much.

    Gerry Dulac: I don't think people realize how much of the defensive calls (and game plan) Tomlin makes.
    Thank you. Ghost, you are not a hater; you'r just telling the truth. And there is no such thing as a Tomlin hater (okay..Crash was) ; These are Tomlin Truthers.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    SO SICK of hearing about "miscommunication" or " communications issues of D". We're talking about professional football players. How f'n hard is it to build a game plan they understand and can execute? Been hearing this nonsense fro years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    You do realize that the above criteria HAS already been achieved recently with fewer 1st rounders right?
    Ten years ago doesn't count Cap. I'm sorry but that stuff you talk about in the Cowher players days holds no weight 10 years later.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    SO SICK of hearing about "miscommunication" or " communications issues of D". We're talking about professional football players. How f'n hard is it to build a game plan they understand and can execute? Been hearing this nonsense fro years now.
    And Butler wasn't the DC for three of the last five years either. So what's the constant if Butler wasn't the DC for 3 of those five years?
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    You do realize that the above criteria HAS already been achieved recently with fewer 1st rounders right?
    Maybe that's the problem. We need to fill this defense with later round picks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Play Calling from the Sideline

    Tomlin - Butler, let's unleash hell.
    Butler - What coverage do you want to play?
    Tomlin - The standard's the standard
    Butler - Man or Zone?
    Tomlin - Next man up
    Butler - Got it, Vince Williams can cover their #1 WR. That means we're gonna have to put Haden on their RB. Better put a S on their #2 WR. Good thing we drafted Bush to help, but we'll confuse everyone and not tell Bush he's supposed to cover the TE until he's running wide open.
    Tomlin - Great, we gotta keep the O guessing. We can't be predictable.
    Butler - Should we blitz?
    Tomlin - Defend every blade of grass.
    Butler - Good thinking, we should drop our OLBs into the short zones to defend those blades. Better yet, we'll send Bud behind the QB to defend that grass just in case.

    TJ - Hey coach, are you gonna call a play, they're about to snap the ball.

    ..............TOUCHDOWN.............

    After the Game

    Tomlin - We didn't make plays. We'll chew on that. We'll eat it. We''ll own it. We'll swallow it and take tums to help with the heartburn. We aren't ready for prime time. We aren't ready for day time. Maybe we should try to play early mornings before the other team wakes up. We won't make excuses. Obviously we don't live in our fears. We're in the business of winning football games.

    Butler - We have to communicate better. Our guys need to get on the same page. We had some breakdowns.
    THAT is beyond funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Maybe that's the problem. We need to fill this defense with later round picks....
    tried that; and Tomlin failed at that as well.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Thank you. Ghost, you are not a hater; you'r just telling the truth. And there is no such thing as a Tomlin hater (okay..Crash was) ; These are Tomlin Truthers.
    You have said this more than once about Crash.
    Crash hated COWHER.....he was VERY pro Tomlin on this board.

    Crash's assessment of EVERYONE was 100 percent based on their treatment of Ben.

    Tomlin (unlike Cowher) basically lets Ben do whatever he wants which is all that Crash needs to like the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    You have said this more than once about Crash.
    Crash hated COWHER.....he was VERY pro Tomlin on this board.

    Crash's assessment of EVERYONE was 100 percent based on their treatment of Ben.

    Tomlin (unlike Cowher) basically lets Ben do whatever he wants which is all that Crash needs to like the guy.
    Whatever; let's not focus on someone who is no longer present. That wasn't the point of the sentence.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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