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    Numerous teams have had as many or more playoff wins than Tomlin the last 8 years.
    Many of those teams have had more than one HC during that span also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Pats... agreed completely. I've used "NBA during the MJ era" as my comp...

    I still believe we'd have 4-5 during Brady's era, instead of the 2. And that's a conservative guess, given Brady has personally eliminated the steelers 3 times...
    We've been knocked out by more teams more times than we have by the Pats.
    Much lesser teams too.

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    So, to summarize.....

    Tomlin is a piece of trash. Garbage.

    Let's throw him away. Send him to the landfill.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Numerous teams have had as many or more playoff wins than Tomlin the last 8 years.
    Many of those teams have had more than one HC during that span also.
    Would be interested in that list. Especially the ones with multiple HC’s.

    It’s easy to say these types of things but usually when we research the facts it’s totally the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Would be interested in that list. Especially the ones with multiple HC’s.

    It’s easy to say these types of things but usually when we research the facts it’s totally the opposite.
    I agree that it's probably easy to overestimate wins by other teams. Especially in the AFC where I'd imagine that the Pat's dominate the available wins.

    I'd also wouldn't be surprised if teams with more playoff wins had the advantage of a good QB on a rookie contract.

    And the 8 year time frame is still arbitrary and probably cherry picked.

    Re: Pats impact on playoffs. They can negatively impact playoff runs without playing you because their success plus their terrible division makes it seem that there's really only one bye available in the AFC.

    Losing out on byes and home field advantage hutlrtsbplayoffnruns because both improve chances of winning.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 09-11-2019 at 02:32 PM.
    Talent vs coaching: [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48851-Poll-Question-for-Everyone/page14?highlight=Northern_Blitz+Sean+Peyton[/url]

    Steelers vs. Other Teams with good QBs: [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/47985-Steelers-most-successful-failure/page5?highlight=Northern_Blitz+playoff+wins+peyton[/url]

    Tomlin playoff record vs. expectations (Cowher pg24): [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page22[/url]

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    Bull..

    It's the last 8 years after the majority of Cowher's players and coaches left. It's 8 straight years. Cherry picking is only if I'd have skipped around those 8 years. 8 straight years. It's a hard fact that the Tomlin supporters can't argue or deal with. That's all.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Bull..

    It's the last 8 years after the majority of Cowher's players and coaches left. It's 8 straight years. Cherry picking is only if I'd have skipped around those 8 years. 8 straight years. It's a hard fact that the Tomlin supporters can't argue or deal with. That's all.
    Cherrypicking includes choosing your start date.

    Based on you apparent case of Tomlin Derrangrment Syndrome, it seems pretty likely that you chose a range that started after the last SB appearance to intentionally depress the numbers.

    But even in your date range (his worst stretch), he basically did as well as other coaches with comparable QBs (check the links in my sig).
    Talent vs coaching: [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48851-Poll-Question-for-Everyone/page14?highlight=Northern_Blitz+Sean+Peyton[/url]

    Steelers vs. Other Teams with good QBs: [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/47985-Steelers-most-successful-failure/page5?highlight=Northern_Blitz+playoff+wins+peyton[/url]

    Tomlin playoff record vs. expectations (Cowher pg24): [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page22[/url]

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    The only thing that cures this endless debate is winning. It's time to win! Hopefully we can start this weekend.

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    Mack: Tomlin "Not Ready For Primetime"

    Belichick, Brady and Pats Prepared... Steelers? Not So Much

    CHRIS MACK
    SEPTEMBER 09, 2019

    For the better part of the last two decades, the Pittsburgh Steelers have been going to New England and getting punished for not doing their homework. After a 33-3 drubbing at the hands of the Patriots on Sunday night in Foxboro, there's no shortage of blame to go around. Especially after the way the Steelers were bent over Tom Brady's knee and spanked for a sixth time in six meetings in Foxboro.

    The play-calling - especially in short yardage situations - was infuriating. The quarterback was off target often and when he did get it to his #2 wide receiver, the ball was dropped faster than you could mutter "Good grief, (Donte) Moncrief." Kameron Kelly looked every bit the part of a defensive back who was in the Alliance of American Football five months ago. The two biggest additions to the defense's supposed speed improvement, Mark Barron and Devin Bush, looked old & slow and young & inexperienced, respectively.

    Not to mention that even a near-perfect effort may not have been enough given the surgical precision Brady and the New England offense showed in exploiting Pittsburgh's deficiencies and mistakes.

    “We weren’t ready for prime time,” said Head Coach Mike Tomlin.

    Here's the problem: Tomlin was speaking as much about himself and his staff as he was the 45 men he put out on the field.

    And that is at the crux of the matter for anyone concerned that this wasn't just one game against the defending champs, and that it's a sign of more to come.

    Unfortunately, we should have seen it coming. Tomlin spent most of his weekly press conference last Tuesday harping on the concept that that Week One would be part of a continued evaluation of his team, and that they couldn't concern themselves with what New England may do.

    Does someone want to be the bearer of bad news and tell him that the preseason ended back in August? I'm too astonished to form words that aren't of a vulgar, four-letter variety.

    Then, rather than adjusting at any point, as Brady and Patriots' Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels did upon seeing their first six plays scratch out just 15 yards, Tomlin sat back and watched Brady pick apart the man coverage his defense was attempting to use underneath. Asked by NBC's Michele Tafoya at halftime when his team's lead had swollen to 20-0, New England Head Coach Bill Belichick said he expected Pittsburgh to make adjustments.

    Tomlin, on the other hand, told Tafoya there was no reason to make any "dramatic schematic changes."

    Again, perhaps it's better that someone else mention to Coach T that the games in September count, because my rage may lead to nothing but angry, red-faced noises.

    With the better part of four months to prepare, Belichick and the Patriots fashioned a game plan for every eventuality, and therefore were able to quickly adjust when it was called for. Tomlin sat around and tried to figure out what he had but never bothered to figure out what may be thrown at him.

    To go into a chess match with Belichick with a bag of checkers is one thing. But to go into a chess match with Belichick without acknowledging that it's a chess match is another thing altogether.

    And it's downright inexcusable.

    https://937thefan.radio.com/blogs/ch...eady-primetime

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Mack: Tomlin "Not Ready For Primetime"

    Belichick, Brady and Pats Prepared... Steelers? Not So Much

    CHRIS MACK
    SEPTEMBER 09, 2019

    For the better part of the last two decades, the Pittsburgh Steelers have been going to New England and getting punished for not doing their homework. After a 33-3 drubbing at the hands of the Patriots on Sunday night in Foxboro, there's no shortage of blame to go around. Especially after the way the Steelers were bent over Tom Brady's knee and spanked for a sixth time in six meetings in Foxboro.

    The play-calling - especially in short yardage situations - was infuriating. The quarterback was off target often and when he did get it to his #2 wide receiver, the ball was dropped faster than you could mutter "Good grief, (Donte) Moncrief." Kameron Kelly looked every bit the part of a defensive back who was in the Alliance of American Football five months ago. The two biggest additions to the defense's supposed speed improvement, Mark Barron and Devin Bush, looked old & slow and young & inexperienced, respectively.

    Not to mention that even a near-perfect effort may not have been enough given the surgical precision Brady and the New England offense showed in exploiting Pittsburgh's deficiencies and mistakes.

    “We weren’t ready for prime time,” said Head Coach Mike Tomlin.

    Here's the problem: Tomlin was speaking as much about himself and his staff as he was the 45 men he put out on the field.

    And that is at the crux of the matter for anyone concerned that this wasn't just one game against the defending champs, and that it's a sign of more to come.

    Unfortunately, we should have seen it coming. Tomlin spent most of his weekly press conference last Tuesday harping on the concept that that Week One would be part of a continued evaluation of his team, and that they couldn't concern themselves with what New England may do.

    Does someone want to be the bearer of bad news and tell him that the preseason ended back in August? I'm too astonished to form words that aren't of a vulgar, four-letter variety.

    Then, rather than adjusting at any point, as Brady and Patriots' Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels did upon seeing their first six plays scratch out just 15 yards, Tomlin sat back and watched Brady pick apart the man coverage his defense was attempting to use underneath. Asked by NBC's Michele Tafoya at halftime when his team's lead had swollen to 20-0, New England Head Coach Bill Belichick said he expected Pittsburgh to make adjustments.

    Tomlin, on the other hand, told Tafoya there was no reason to make any "dramatic schematic changes."

    Again, perhaps it's better that someone else mention to Coach T that the games in September count, because my rage may lead to nothing but angry, red-faced noises.

    With the better part of four months to prepare, Belichick and the Patriots fashioned a game plan for every eventuality, and therefore were able to quickly adjust when it was called for. Tomlin sat around and tried to figure out what he had but never bothered to figure out what may be thrown at him.

    To go into a chess match with Belichick with a bag of checkers is one thing. But to go into a chess match with Belichick without acknowledging that it's a chess match is another thing altogether.

    And it's downright inexcusable.

    https://937thefan.radio.com/blogs/ch...eady-primetime
    Boom......

    Tomlin himself said they were not prepared.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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